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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] random: use raw spinlocks for use on RT
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2022 16:34:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YufkZU9kGkHHUhAK@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220801142530.133007-1-Jason@zx2c4.com>

On 2022-08-01 16:25:31 [+0200], Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> After handling several bug reports using various creative solutions,
> it's becoming clear that random bytes are actually a useful thing to
> happen from any ordinary context, including when interruptsare off.
> Actually, that's been long recognized, which is why the RNG uses
> spinlocks rather than mutexes. But on RT, those spinlocks are getting
> converted back into sleeping locks.
> 
> This clearly is causing more problems than it might hypothetically
> solve. Additionally, the locks in random.c are generally for fixed
> durations doing CPU-bound operations -- no waiting for hardware or I/O
> or the like. So this shouldn't result in a real harm to latency.
> 
> Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
> Signed-off-by: Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com>
> ---
> Sebastian - I won't move forward with this without your Ack, obviously.
> What do you think of this general approach? -Jason

I would need to do worst-case measurements and I've been looking at this
just before writting the other email and there was a local_lock_t
somewhere which needs also change…

So I have everything ready for 5.20 (6.0) ready without the RT patch and
then this vsprintf issues comes along…
From that point of view I would prefer to either init it upfront in a
way that works for everyone/ loose the first %p since it is probably a
minor inconvenience if nobody complains - instead swapping all locks.
We managed without this for kasan and lockdep which are both not used in
a production environment.

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-01 14:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-01 14:25 [PATCH] random: use raw spinlocks for use on RT Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-01 14:34 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2022-08-01 14:41   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-11  0:17   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-11  7:15     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-11 14:20       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-15 10:26         ` David Laight
2022-08-16 14:02         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-29 19:45         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-29 19:56           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-30 10:13             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-30 15:24               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-30 18:57                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-31 16:27                   ` Jason A. Donenfeld

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