From: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] random: use raw spinlocks for use on RT
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 02:17:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YvRKm/IpbUID18FK@zx2c4.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YufkZU9kGkHHUhAK@linutronix.de>
Hey Sebastian,
On Mon, Aug 01, 2022 at 04:34:13PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2022-08-01 16:25:31 [+0200], Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> > After handling several bug reports using various creative solutions,
> > it's becoming clear that random bytes are actually a useful thing to
> > happen from any ordinary context, including when interruptsare off.
> > Actually, that's been long recognized, which is why the RNG uses
> > spinlocks rather than mutexes. But on RT, those spinlocks are getting
> > converted back into sleeping locks.
> >
> > This clearly is causing more problems than it might hypothetically
> > solve. Additionally, the locks in random.c are generally for fixed
> > durations doing CPU-bound operations -- no waiting for hardware or I/O
> > or the like. So this shouldn't result in a real harm to latency.
> >
> > Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
> > Signed-off-by: Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@zx2c4.com>
> > ---
> > Sebastian - I won't move forward with this without your Ack, obviously.
> > What do you think of this general approach? -Jason
>
> I would need to do worst-case measurements and I've been looking at this
> just before writting the other email and there was a local_lock_t
> somewhere which needs also change…
Did you ever come up some measurements here? It sure would be nice if I
could apply this, but obviously that's contingent on you saying it's
okay latency-wise on RT.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-08-11 0:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-01 14:25 [PATCH] random: use raw spinlocks for use on RT Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-01 14:34 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-01 14:41 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-11 0:17 ` Jason A. Donenfeld [this message]
2022-08-11 7:15 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-11 14:20 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-15 10:26 ` David Laight
2022-08-16 14:02 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-29 19:45 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-29 19:56 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-30 10:13 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-30 15:24 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-08-30 18:57 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-08-31 16:27 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
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