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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip] x86/locking/atomic: Use asm_inline for atomic locking insns
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 20:55:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8isNxBxC9pcG4KL@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFULd4b=4rHcVAVSg_3yMb8=3ReiSriw_rM4vJL9_HvheXE92w@mail.gmail.com>


* Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 1:38 PM Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 01, 2025 at 10:05:56AM +0100, Uros Bizjak wrote:
> > > OTOH, -Os, where different code size/performance heuristics are used, now
> > > performs better w.r.t code size.
> >
> > Did anything change since:
> >
> > 281dc5c5ec0f ("Give up on pushing CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE")
> > 3a55fb0d9fe8 ("Tell the world we gave up on pushing CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE")
> >
> > wrt -Os?
> >
> > Because if not, we still don't love -Os and you can drop the -Os argument.
> 
> The -Os argument was to show the effect of the patch when the compiler
> is instructed to take care of the overall size. Giving the compiler
> -O2 and then looking at the overall size of the produced binary is
> just wrong.
> 
> > And without any perf data showing any improvement, this patch does nothing but
> > enlarge -O2 size...
> 
> Even to my surprise, the patch has some noticeable effects on the
> performance, please see the attachment in [1] for LMBench data or [2]
> for some excerpts from the data. So, I think the patch has potential
> to improve the performance.
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAFULd4YBcG45bigHBox2pu+To+Y5BzbRxG+pUr42AVOWSnfKsg@mail.gmail.com/
> [2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAFULd4ZsSKwJ4Dz3cCAgaVsa4ypbb0e2savO-3_Ltbs=1wzgKQ@mail.gmail.com/

If you are measuring micro-costs, please make sure you pin the workload 
to a single CPU (via 'taskset' for example) and run 'perf stat --null 
--repeat 5' or so to measure the run-over-run noise of the benchmark.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-05 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-28 12:35 [PATCH -tip] x86/locking/atomic: Use asm_inline for atomic locking insns Uros Bizjak
2025-02-28 13:13 ` Uros Bizjak
2025-02-28 16:48 ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-28 22:31   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-02-28 22:58     ` Dave Hansen
2025-03-01  9:05       ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-01 12:38         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05  8:54           ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-05 17:04             ` Linus Torvalds
2025-03-05 19:40               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-05 19:47               ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-05 22:18                 ` David Laight
2025-03-05 20:14               ` David Laight
2025-03-06 10:45                 ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-06 13:07                   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-06 22:19                     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-08  7:22                       ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-08 19:15               ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-05 19:55             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2025-03-05 20:13               ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-05 20:21                 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-06  9:38                   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-05 20:20               ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-06 10:52                 ` Dirk Gouders
2025-03-06 10:59                   ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-05 20:36             ` Borislav Petkov
2025-03-05 21:26               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-03-06  9:01                 ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-06  9:43                   ` kernel: Current status of CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE=y (was: Re: [PATCH -tip] x86/locking/atomic: Use asm_inline for atomic locking insns) Ingo Molnar
2025-03-06 10:37                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-03-06 20:37                     ` David Laight
2025-03-03 13:12       ` [PATCH -tip] x86/locking/atomic: Use asm_inline for atomic locking insns David Laight
2025-03-02 20:56   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-03 12:23     ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-08 19:08   ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-03-09  7:50     ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-09  9:46       ` David Laight
2025-03-09  9:57         ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-06  9:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-06 10:26   ` Uros Bizjak
2025-03-06 10:38     ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-06 10:50       ` Ingo Molnar
2025-03-06 13:56   ` Uros Bizjak

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