From: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
To: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
Koba Ko <kobak@nvidia.com>,
Felix Abecassis <fabecassis@nvidia.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>,
Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] sched/fair: Add SIS_UTIL support to select_idle_capacity()
Date: Wed, 6 May 2026 20:11:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <afuEZGNHrhn51XRo@gpd4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c0ee5435-119b-4ed2-840d-7635b32849b0@arm.com>
Hi Dietmar and Vincent,
On Wed, May 06, 2026 at 07:01:35PM +0200, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
> On 06.05.26 14:59, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Apr 2026 at 16:44, Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
>
> [...]
>
> >> @@ -8026,10 +8027,28 @@ select_idle_capacity(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd, int target)
> >> util_min = uclamp_eff_value(p, UCLAMP_MIN);
> >> util_max = uclamp_eff_value(p, UCLAMP_MAX);
> >>
> >> + if (sched_feat(SIS_UTIL) && sd->shared) {
> >> + /*
> >> + * Same nr_idle_scan hint as select_idle_cpu(), nr only limits
> >> + * the scan when not preferring an idle core.
> >> + */
> >> + nr = READ_ONCE(sd->shared->nr_idle_scan) + 1;
> >> + /* overloaded domain is unlikely to have idle cpu/core */
> >> + if (nr == 1)
> >> + return -1;
> >> + }
> >> +
> >> for_each_cpu_wrap(cpu, cpus, target) {
> >> bool preferred_core = !prefers_idle_core || is_core_idle(cpu);
> >> unsigned long cpu_cap = capacity_of(cpu);
> >>
> >> + /*
> >> + * Good-enough early exit (mirrors select_idle_cpu() logic).
> >> + */
> >> + if (!prefers_idle_core &&
> >> + --nr <= 0 && best_fits == ASYM_IDLE_CORE_UCLAMP_MISFIT)
> >
> > With SMT, !prefers_idle_core implies that there is no idle core; Is
> > best_fits == ASYM_IDLE_CORE_UCLAMP_MISFIT really expected in such case
> > ?
> >
> > With !SMT, !prefers_idle_core is always true and we will bail out
> > early as expected
>
> I struggle to comprehend:
>
> I assume the mirrored select_idle_cpu() logic is:
>
> for_each_cpu_wrap(cpu, cpus, target + 1)
>
> if (has_idle_core)
>
> else
> if (--nr <= 0)
> return -1
So, the logic in select_idle_cpu() is that as soon as nr <= 0, we stops the walk
and returns -1, without any "only stop if the answer is good enough" guard.
With this change in select_idle_capacity() when nr is exhausted, we stop only if
best_cpu is "good enough" (ASYM_IDLE_CORE_UCLAMP_MISFIT), otherwise we keep
scanning. Therefore, we're not perfectly mirroring select_idle_cpu().
>
> Should this condition not be just:
>
> if (!prefers_idle_core && --nr <= 0)
> return best_cpu
I think this would match more closely select_idle_cpu(). However,
select_idle_cpu() doesn't have the "best partial idle placement" logic at all,
it either returns an idle CPU or -1.
I guess it's a policy decision here: do we want to mirror exactly the scan bound
(nr <= 0 -> hard stop) or allow extra scan based on the ranking quality
(nr <= 0 -> stop early if satisfied)?
Thanks,
-Andrea
>
> since if we do a:
>
> if (!choose_idle_cpu(cpu, p)))
> continue;
>
> right after that?
>
> best_cpu is -1 by default so sis() will return target, in case we
> already found a best_cpu then sis() will return this instead.
>
> What do I miss here?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-06 18:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-28 14:41 [PATCH v5 0/5] sched/fair: SMT-aware asymmetric CPU capacity Andrea Righi
2026-04-28 14:41 ` [PATCH 1/5] sched/fair: Drop redundant RCU read lock in NOHZ kick path Andrea Righi
2026-04-28 16:29 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-29 16:07 ` [PATCH v2 " Andrea Righi
2026-05-05 9:15 ` [PATCH " Dietmar Eggemann
2026-05-05 9:22 ` Andrea Righi
2026-04-28 14:41 ` [PATCH 2/5] sched/fair: Attach sched_domain_shared to sd_asym_cpucapacity Andrea Righi
2026-05-05 12:48 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-05-06 9:45 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-05-06 10:19 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-05-06 10:30 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-04-28 14:41 ` [PATCH 3/5] sched/fair: Prefer fully-idle SMT cores in asym-capacity idle selection Andrea Righi
2026-05-05 17:20 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-05-06 18:31 ` Andrea Righi
2026-05-06 10:29 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-05-06 12:34 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-05-06 18:15 ` Andrea Righi
2026-04-28 14:41 ` [PATCH 4/5] sched/fair: Reject misfit pulls onto busy SMT siblings on asym-capacity Andrea Righi
2026-04-28 14:41 ` [PATCH 5/5] sched/fair: Add SIS_UTIL support to select_idle_capacity() Andrea Righi
2026-05-06 12:59 ` Vincent Guittot
2026-05-06 17:01 ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-05-06 18:11 ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2026-05-05 20:40 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] sched/fair: SMT-aware asymmetric CPU capacity Dietmar Eggemann
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