The Linux Kernel Mailing List
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	 Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	 David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] coding-assistants: simplify attribution
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2026 20:03:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ak1NTrmM2YaMW5Nr@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260701-work-coding-assistants-v1-1-a20a94d1d606@kernel.org>

On Wed, Jul 01, 2026 at 05:54:48PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> I remain very confused by our coding assistant contribution guidelines.
> I'm going to be a bit polemic now but this seriously in good faith.
>
> Why precisely do we require all this detailed information about what
> specific coding assistant was used?
>
> I find it very irritating that our git history has effectively started
> to function a bit like a free advertising platform for a bunch of AI
> companies and their proprietary agents and models.
>
> And it reamins unclear to me what exactly we do get out of this detailed
> information: Do we want to run statistical analysis on what agent and
> model is used the most and publish that on LWN at some point?
>
> I acknowledge that my stance is even more radical: imho we would just
> stop it with any disclosure requirements completely. It's useless imho.
> We already see that other than core contributors most people don't care
> and will just not disclose their usage of AI. I think this is entirely
> pointless and worse it brings in undefined legal status as well. It's
> not like recent events of pulling certain models from the face of the
> earth have made this any less concerning.
>
> But fine, if we want to do this can we please just dumb it down to
>
> Assisted-by: LLM
>
> or
>
> Assisted-by: Coding Assistant
>
> or something else. That still gives the "careful review" signal to
> reviewers that want to pay special attention to LLM generated work while
> avoiding this slew of metadata.
>
> Signed-off-by: Christian Brauner (Amutable) <brauner@kernel.org>

FWIW I'm fine with this. We can always send the comment stuff as a follow up. So:

Reviewed-by: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>

Maybe send it non-RFC with a cleaned up commit msg? Feel free to add my tag to
that.

> ---
>  Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst | 8 ++------
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst b/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst
> index 899f4459c52d..fe34f3e7e828 100644
> --- a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst
> @@ -43,12 +43,8 @@ When AI tools contribute to kernel development, proper attribution
>  helps track the evolving role of AI in the development process.
>  Contributions should include an Assisted-by tag in the following format::
>
> -  Assisted-by: AGENT_NAME:MODEL_VERSION [TOOL1] [TOOL2]
> +  Assisted-by: LLM [TOOL1] [TOOL2]
>
> -Where:
> -
> -* ``AGENT_NAME`` is the name of the AI tool or framework
> -* ``MODEL_VERSION`` is the specific model version used
>  * ``[TOOL1] [TOOL2]`` are optional specialized analysis tools used
>    (e.g., coccinelle, sparse, smatch, clang-tidy)
>
> @@ -56,4 +52,4 @@ Basic development tools (git, gcc, make, editors) should not be listed.
>
>  Example::
>
> -  Assisted-by: Claude:claude-3-opus coccinelle sparse
> +  Assisted-by: LLM coccinelle sparse
>
> ---
> base-commit: dc59e4fea9d83f03bad6bddf3fa2e52491777482
> change-id: 20260701-work-coding-assistants-650ae1202ee0
>

Cheers, Lorenzo

      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-07 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-01 15:54 [PATCH RFC] coding-assistants: simplify attribution Christian Brauner
2026-07-01 16:08 ` Mark Brown
2026-07-02  7:10   ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 11:35     ` Mark Brown
2026-07-01 16:08 ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-07-01 16:12   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02  7:11   ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02  9:51   ` David Disseldorp
2026-07-01 16:10 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02  7:27   ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02  7:46     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02  8:10       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02  8:16         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02 10:04       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 11:51         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02 12:49           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 13:41             ` Jani Nikula
2026-07-02 13:48               ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 13:26           ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 13:35             ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-02 13:47             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 13:57             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 14:09               ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 14:46                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 16:18                   ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 16:29                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02  8:08     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02  8:28       ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02 13:48         ` Carlos Maiolino
2026-07-02  9:24   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-01 18:35 ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-01 18:53   ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-07-02  7:29     ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02  7:28   ` Christian Brauner
2026-07-02  8:12 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02  8:44   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-02  9:09     ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02  9:39       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02  9:37     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02  9:38     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02  9:44       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 11:57         ` Brian Foster
2026-07-02 12:18           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 13:07             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 13:37               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 13:47                 ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02 13:09             ` Brian Foster
2026-07-02 13:25               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 10:34     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-02 12:23       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 12:39         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-02 12:53           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 13:23       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 10:27 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-02 11:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-07-02 13:40   ` Carlos Maiolino
2026-07-03  9:21 ` Ellie
2026-07-03 11:58   ` Laurent Pinchart
     [not found] ` <20f91215-f0db-4bb5-9ada-f3df33d78534@gmx.net>
2026-07-07 18:55   ` ckadr1
2026-07-07 19:03 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=ak1NTrmM2YaMW5Nr@lucifer \
    --to=ljs@kernel.org \
    --cc=axboe@kernel.dk \
    --cc=brauner@kernel.org \
    --cc=corbet@lwn.net \
    --cc=david@kernel.org \
    --cc=jlayton@kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-doc@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=torvalds@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=vbabka@kernel.org \
    --cc=workflows@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox