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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] mm: fix reclaim storms in defrag_mode
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2026 13:51:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ak_fl7Nq0DHmQd2K@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <akWwg0irlanA_y1i@linux.dev>

On Wed, Jul 01, 2026 at 05:31:11PM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2026 at 02:21:16PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > As we deployed vm.defrag_mode=1 into Meta production, some workloads
> > regressed with recurring pressure spikes and swap storms (which in turn
> > triggered userspace OOM rules on pressure and swap utilization levels).
> > 
> > Tracing pinned this to non-movable 
> 
> allocation?
> 
> > requests spinning and reclaiming

    ^^^

non-movable requests :)

> > unproductively when kswapd/kcompactd are overwhelmed. Direct reclaim
> > predominantly frees up pages in movable blocks, but those requests
> > cannot use that space under defrag_mode rules; 
> 
> Do we have these rules documented somewhere?

Kind of. The crux is that defrag_mode enforces ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT in the
slowpath as well (whereas vanilla just does it in the fastpath). So
it's documented to the extent that ALLOC_NOFRAGMENT is.

> > and it is unlikely to
> > free up whole blocks incidentally for __rmqueue_claim() to work.
> > 
> > This series fixes it by making non-movable requests participate in
> > pageblock production in the allocator slowpath.
> 
> Sorry after reading above sentence I didn't get what those allocators will do
> things differently after the series (I still have to go through the series).

Let me add:

[...] - meaning, they will invoke direct reclaim and direct compaction
with pageblock_order.

Does that clarify it a bit?

      reply	other threads:[~2026-07-09 17:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-26 18:21 [PATCH 0/4] mm: fix reclaim storms in defrag_mode Johannes Weiner
2026-06-26 18:21 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm: page_alloc: __GFP_FS lockdep annotation for direct compaction Johannes Weiner
2026-07-01 13:45   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-02  0:39   ` Shakeel Butt
2026-06-26 18:21 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm: compaction: support non-movable compaction for pageblock requests Johannes Weiner
2026-07-01 14:19   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-01 15:28     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-07-01 18:14       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-01 21:11         ` Johannes Weiner
2026-07-02  9:28           ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-09 17:39             ` Johannes Weiner
2026-07-09 20:42               ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-02  1:47   ` Zi Yan
2026-07-09 17:42     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-06-26 18:21 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm: page_alloc: move capture_control to the page allocator Johannes Weiner
2026-07-01 18:02   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-01 20:57     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-07-02 10:20       ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-09 17:45         ` Johannes Weiner
2026-07-09 20:44           ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-06-26 18:21 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm: page_alloc: fix non-movable reclaim storm in defrag_mode Johannes Weiner
2026-06-26 18:29   ` Zi Yan
2026-06-26 18:43     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-07-01 18:06   ` Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-07-01 21:02     ` Johannes Weiner
2026-07-02  0:31 ` [PATCH 0/4] mm: fix reclaim storms " Shakeel Butt
2026-07-09 17:51   ` Johannes Weiner [this message]

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