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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
Cc: Ridong Chen <ridong.chen@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Qi Zheng <qi.zheng@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>, Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	Axel Rasmussen <axelrasmussen@google.com>,
	Yuanchu Xie <yuanchu@google.com>, Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ridong Chen <chenridong@xiaomi.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] mm/vmscan: honour node reclaim limits per type
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2026 11:21:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aogYm0fKNsYVyBM8@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aogQ6iDA7RkuTtDG@gremlin>

On Fri 21-08-26 09:58:52, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote:
> +cc Roman for suggestion.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2026 at 10:31:06AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > You are explaining what but missing the most important part _Why_ do we
> > need to have this addressed? Is this just addressing Sashiko review
> > refernced below? Is there any real usecase where the current behavior
> > matters?
> 
> This is exactly the issue with these 'unrelated to your patch but' suggestions
> from sashiko.
> 
> You end up in loops:
> 
>         AI generated patch --------------->  AI generated review
>                   ^                                  |
>                   |                                  |
>                   |                                  v
>                  AI generated 'unrelated to your patch but'
> 
> And _at every stage_ reviewers have to do _additional work_ (with ~50% signal/noise).
> 
> This isn't sustainable.
> 
> We already had _too much work_ prior to the slopgeddon. Now we have a multiple
> of that.
> 
> Roman - I really think we a way of switching off the 'unrelated to your patch
> but' stuff per-subsystem would be useful.
> 
> Maybe we could figure out a way of funnelling this stuff somewhere separately
> longer term.
> 
> (I have I think 2 slopped fixes to rewrite after the previous what like 7 or 8
> this cycle? So forgive the grumpiness :)

I wouldn't blame Sashiko on this really. Yes it points to a theoretical
problem. That is fine. But we should encourage people to not blindly
follow that lead and immediately jump at fixing something that is not a
real problem. Quite honestly I even haven't looked into patches until it
is clear that the usecase is sound. We should enforce this more and
leave patches lingering if they are not sufficiently justified.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-21  9:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-21  8:17 [RFC PATCH 0/4] mm/vmscan: honour node reclaim limits per type Ridong Chen
2026-08-21  8:17 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] mm/vmscan: only reclaim slab in node reclaim when over min_slab_pages Ridong Chen
2026-08-21  8:17 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] mm/vmscan: only reclaim file pages in node reclaim when over min_unmapped_pages Ridong Chen
2026-08-21  8:17 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] mm/vmscan: drop the combined limit gate in __node_reclaim() Ridong Chen
2026-08-21 12:49   ` Johannes Weiner
2026-08-21  8:17 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] mm/vmscan: do not skip node reclaim when only anon is reclaimable Ridong Chen
2026-08-21  8:31 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] mm/vmscan: honour node reclaim limits per type Michal Hocko
2026-08-21  8:58   ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-21  9:21     ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2026-08-21 11:16       ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-21 11:26         ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-21 13:43           ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)
2026-08-21  9:07   ` Ridong Chen
2026-08-21  9:24     ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-21 10:52       ` Ridong Chen
2026-08-21 11:02         ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-21 11:10           ` Ridong Chen
2026-08-21 11:20             ` Michal Hocko
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-08-21  8:16 Ridong Chen

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