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From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
	Koba Ko <kobak@nvidia.com>,
	Felix Abecassis <fabecassis@nvidia.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>,
	Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] sched/fair: Attach sched_domain_shared to sd_asym_cpucapacity
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2026 16:48:59 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dc66d3e5-b72a-4753-ae0b-966977a0e8ff@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aest1kBSzJ4JUvim@gpd4>

Hello Andrea,

On 4/24/2026 2:16 PM, Andrea Righi wrote:
>>>  	rcu_assign_pointer(per_cpu(sd_llc, cpu), sd);
>>>  	per_cpu(sd_llc_size, cpu) = size;
>>>  	per_cpu(sd_llc_id, cpu) = id;
>>> +
>>> +	/* TODO: Rename sd_llc_shared to fit the new role. */
>>>  	rcu_assign_pointer(per_cpu(sd_llc_shared, cpu), sds);
>>
>> Would love for folks to chime in but IMO "sd_wakeup_shared" sounds
>> pretty reasonable since it is mainly the wakeup path that depends on
>> this except for one !ASYM load balancing trigger.
> 
> sd_wakeup_shared captures the bigger consumer (wakeup), but not the nohz
> balancer kick logic.
> 
> Maybe "sd_balance_shared" (balance in a broad sense, wakeup is still affecting
> balancing at the end) or "sd_effective_shared" (if we want to stress that
> topology may move: LLC vs asym)?

Works for me! I don't have any strong feelings on this.

[..snip..]

>>> +		/*
>>> +		 * In case of ASYM_CPUCAPACITY, attach sd->shared to
>>> +		 * sd_asym_cpucapacity for wakeup stat tracking.
>>> +		 *
>>> +		 * Caveats:
>>> +		 *
>>> +		 * 1) has_asym is system-wide, but a given CPU may still
>>> +		 *    lack an SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY_FULL ancestor (e.g., an
>>> +		 *    exclusive cpuset carving out a symmetric capacity island).
>>> +		 *    Such CPUs must fall through to the LLC seeding path below.
>>> +		 *
>>> +		 * 2) Skip the asym attach if the asym ancestor is an
>>> +		 *    overlapping domain (SD_NUMA). On those topologies let the
>>> +		 *    LLC path own the shared object instead.
>>> +		 *
>>> +		 * XXX: This assumes SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY_FULL domain
>>> +		 * always has more than one group else it is prone to
>>> +		 * degeneration.
>>
>> I looked into this and we only set SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY if we find more
>> than one capacity and SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY_FULL implies there are atleast
>> two CPUs covering differnt capcities in the span.
>>
>> The very first SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY_FULL domain should be safe from
>> degeneration when it is non-overlapping.
> 
> Makes sense, maybe we can replace the XXX part with note like this:
> 
>  * Note: SD_ASYM_CPUCAPACITY_FULL is only set when multiple distinct
>  * capacities exist in the domain span, so the asym domain we attach
>  * to cannot degenerate into a single-capacity group. The relevant
>  * edge cases are instead covered by the caveats above.

Ack! That should make it clear. Thank you.

[..snip..]

>>>  		if (sd->flags & SD_SHARE_LLC) {
>>> -			int sd_id = cpumask_first(sched_domain_span(sd));
>>> -
>>> -			sd->shared = *per_cpu_ptr(d.sds, sd_id);
>>> -			atomic_set(&sd->shared->nr_busy_cpus, sd->span_weight);
>>> -			atomic_inc(&sd->shared->ref);
>>> +			/*
>>> +			 * Initialize the sd->shared for SD_SHARE_LLC unless
>>> +			 * the asym path above already claimed it.
>>> +			 */
>>> +			if (!asym_claimed)
>>> +				init_sched_domain_shared(&d, sd);
>>
>> Tbh, if "has_asym" is true, we probabaly don't even need this since the
>> nr_busy_cpus accounting gets us nothing.
>>
>> Might save a little overhead and space on those systems but I would
>> love to hear if there are any concerns if we just drop the
>> sd_llc->shared when we detect asym capacities.
> 
> Hm... but "has_asym" is global, we may still need LLC-owned shared for symmetric
> islands and NUMA-overlap cases, no?

"has_asym" is local to build_sched_domains() right? So it should operate
per cpuset partition since we call build_sched_domains() for every
"cpu_map".

Ack to everything that was snipped off!

-- 
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-24 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-23  7:36 [PATCH v3 0/5] sched/fair: SMT-aware asymmetric CPU capacity Andrea Righi
2026-04-23  7:36 ` [PATCH 1/5] sched/fair: Attach sched_domain_shared to sd_asym_cpucapacity Andrea Righi
2026-04-24  5:14   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-24  8:46     ` Andrea Righi
2026-04-24 11:18       ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2026-04-24 23:29         ` Andrea Righi
2026-04-23  7:36 ` [PATCH 2/5] sched/fair: Prefer fully-idle SMT cores in asym-capacity idle selection Andrea Righi
2026-04-24  5:42   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-23  7:36 ` [PATCH 3/5] sched/fair: Reject misfit pulls onto busy SMT siblings on asym-capacity Andrea Righi
2026-04-24  5:37   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-24  9:21     ` Andrea Righi
2026-04-23  7:36 ` [PATCH 4/5] sched/fair: Add SIS_UTIL support to select_idle_capacity() Andrea Righi
2026-04-24  5:55   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-24 12:32   ` Vincent Guittot
2026-04-24 17:13     ` Andrea Righi
2026-04-27  5:13     ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-27  8:35       ` Vincent Guittot
2026-04-27 16:01         ` Andrea Righi
2026-04-27 17:26           ` Vincent Guittot
2026-04-23  7:36 ` [PATCH 5/5] sched/fair: Make asym CPU capacity idle rank values self-documenting Andrea Righi
2026-04-24  4:29   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-04-24  5:19     ` Andrea Righi
2026-04-24 12:34       ` Vincent Guittot

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