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From: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
To: "Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)" <tan.shaopeng@fujitsu.com>,
	Ben Horgan <ben.horgan@arm.com>,
	Drew Fustini <fustini@kernel.org>
Cc: Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	"Dave Martin" <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>, Fenghua Yu <fenghuay@nvidia.com>,
	Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mpam,x86,fs/resctrl: Generic schema description Proof of Concept
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2026 08:29:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dee0c864-34b2-43df-a7f6-63777eb795cf@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <TY4PR01MB169307B96B87D614E946C8EC38B182@TY4PR01MB16930.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Shaopeng,

On 6/11/26 6:30 PM, Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu) wrote:
> Hello Reinette, Ben, Drew,
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 04, 2026 at 02:47:39PM -0700, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>>> The ability to change scope is much needed for RISC-V. There are
>>>> compromises in my RFC [1] as a result of trying to map everything to
>>>> either L2 or L3 scope.
>>>>
>>>> I would also like to see a non-cpu cache scope for monitoring too, but
>>>> would that be better discussed outside the context of this proof of
>>>> concept?
>>>
>>> I also think it would be good for it to be clear that monitoring is based on
>>> scope, not a resource. With the MB controls supporting different scope I do think
>>> that this would be a good next step. A previous musing from me on this topic can
>>> be found (at the end of ) https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/fb1e2686-237b-4536-acd6-15159abafcba@intel.com/
>>>
>>> I have not yet considered how this can be built on top of this PoC though.
>>
>> Thanks for explaining. I like how how you show an example of
>> mon_data/mon_NODE_00/mbm_total_bytes in that thread. I believe that sort
>> of scheme would work well for RISc-V as a bandwidth controller
>> implementing the CBQRI spec can be located anywhere within the system.
> 
> I have a few questions regarding the scope parameter and the name "mbm_total_bytes".
> 
> First, concerning the scope parameter, does the "NODE" specified in "scope" refer to a NUMA node?

Yes.

> If so, wouldn't using "NUMA" directly be more explicit and user-friendly? 
> Could you please explain why "NODE" is used instead of "NUMA"?

By using "node" the idea is to create an interface that is familiar to user space. Since 
/sys/devices/system/node already exists to expose the NUMA layout to user space I expect that
using similar terminology would make the resctrl interface easier to use since it would be clear
that a "node" in /sys/devices/system/node would have a matching "node" in resctrl.

> 
> Second, regarding the naming of "mbm_total_bytes",
> the meaning of this name seems to differ from what is typically found under mon_data/mon_L3_<id>/mbm_total_bytes. 

Could you please elaborate how the meaning is different? The only information I have about
the systems needing this is in Nvidia's portion of
https://lpc.events/event/19/contributions/2093/attachments/1958/4172/resctrl%20Microconference%20LPC%202025%20Tokyo.pdf

> To avoid confusion and better reflect its different nature, 
> how about considering an alternative name such as mbm_global_bytes or another more appropriate identifier.

Reinette

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-17 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-29 18:06 [RFC] mpam,x86,fs/resctrl: Generic schema description Proof of Concept Reinette Chatre
2026-06-02 20:23 ` Babu Moger
2026-06-02 22:56   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-03  1:14     ` Moger, Babu
2026-06-03  3:55       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-03 14:40         ` Babu Moger
2026-06-02 23:32 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-06-03  3:45   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-03 11:53     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-06-04 16:37       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-05 15:43         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-06-05 16:20           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-03 15:15 ` Ben Horgan
2026-06-03 19:34   ` Drew Fustini
2026-06-04 11:24     ` Ben Horgan
2026-06-04 17:38       ` Drew Fustini
2026-06-12  1:30         ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2026-06-17 15:29           ` Reinette Chatre [this message]
2026-06-19  1:42             ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2026-06-22 16:10               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-23  5:04                 ` Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2026-06-04 21:05     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-05 19:35       ` Drew Fustini
2026-06-06  5:10         ` Drew Fustini
2026-06-06  5:23           ` Drew Fustini
2026-06-04 17:43   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-05 14:53     ` Ben Horgan
2026-06-05 15:39       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-05 16:37         ` Ben Horgan
2026-06-08 16:16           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 10:10             ` Ben Horgan
2026-06-09 15:28               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 16:37                 ` Ben Horgan
2026-06-09 17:41                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10  7:09                     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-06-10 14:27                       ` Chen, Yu C
2026-06-10 16:13                         ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 17:57                           ` Chen, Yu C
2026-06-10 18:10                             ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 15:59                       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 18:05                         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-06-11  3:26                         ` Chen, Yu C
2026-06-11 15:45                           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-26 15:46                             ` Chen, Yu C
2026-07-02 14:27                               ` Ben Horgan
2026-07-03  9:01                                 ` Chen, Yu C
2026-06-10  4:31                 ` Drew Fustini
2026-06-10 15:14                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-03 18:46 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-04 10:02   ` Ben Horgan
2026-06-04 21:42   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-08 12:56     ` Chen, Yu C
2026-06-03 22:14 ` Drew Fustini
2026-06-04 21:47   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-05 19:48     ` Drew Fustini
2026-06-15 21:05 ` Moger, Babu
2026-06-17 17:18   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-17 20:29     ` Babu Moger
2026-06-24 19:08 ` Fenghua Yu
2026-06-24 22:22   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-25  1:26     ` Fenghua Yu
2026-06-25 15:43       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-07-10 20:59         ` Fenghua Yu
2026-07-02 13:37       ` Ben Horgan
2026-07-02 15:16         ` Fenghua Yu
2026-07-03 13:42           ` Ben Horgan

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