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From: Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org>
To: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Tom Herbert <tom@quantonium.net>,
	Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>,
	Rohit Seth <rohit@quantonium.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 08/14] gtp: Support encpasulating over IPv6
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:04:37 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170921000437.rg2h6vyxsrbc3bel@nataraja> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALx6S36zz1CFq75S5-=UK8wtuK-pxaQdWU7tVuRGhtb_Y9QkDg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Tom,

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 01:40:54PM -0700, Tom Herbert wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 12:45 PM, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> > There is a socket associated with the tunnel to do the encapsulation
> > and it has an address family, right?
> 
> If fd's are set from userspace for the sockets then we could derive
> the address family from them. I'll change that. Although, looking at
> now I am wondering why were passing fds into GTP instead of just
> having the kernel create the UDP port like is done for other encaps.

because the userspace process has to take care of those bits of GTP-U
that the kernel doesn't, such as responding to GTP ECHO requests with
GTP echo responses.  Only the "GTP Message type G-PDU" is handled in the
kernel, as only those frames contain user plane.  See table 1 of Section
7.1 of 3GPP TS 29.060.

If you create the socket in the kernel, how would you hand the socket to
the userspace process later on?

IMHO, it feels more natural to simply create it in userspace (like you
would do in the non-kernel-accelerated case) and then simply handle the
G-PDU messages in the kernel while doing the rest in userspace.

But if there's another method that feels more usual to the kernel
community, I'm not against any changes - but given kernel policies, we'd
have to keep userspace compatbility, right?

Regards,
	Harald
-- 
- Harald Welte <laforge@gnumonks.org>           http://laforge.gnumonks.org/
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-21  0:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-19  0:38 [PATCH net-next 00/14] gtp: Additional feature support Tom Herbert
2017-09-19  0:38 ` [PATCH net-next 01/14] iptunnel: Add common functions to get a tunnel route Tom Herbert
2017-09-19  7:30   ` kbuild test robot
2017-09-19  0:38 ` [PATCH net-next 02/14] vxlan: Call common functions to get tunnel routes Tom Herbert
2017-09-19  0:38 ` [PATCH net-next 03/14] gtp: Call common functions to get tunnel routes and add dst_cache Tom Herbert
2017-09-19  4:17   ` David Miller
2017-09-19 12:09     ` Harald Welte
2017-09-19 17:44       ` David Miller
2017-09-20 15:37       ` Andreas Schultz
2017-09-24  1:33         ` Harald Welte
2017-09-19 16:05     ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-19  0:38 ` [PATCH net-next 04/14] gtp: udp recv clean up Tom Herbert
2017-09-19  7:44   ` kbuild test robot
2017-09-19 11:32   ` Harald Welte
2017-09-19  0:38 ` [PATCH net-next 05/14] gtp: Remove special mtu handling Tom Herbert
2017-09-19 11:42   ` Harald Welte
2017-09-19 18:12     ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-19  0:38 ` [PATCH net-next 06/14] gtp: Eliminate pktinfo and add port configuration Tom Herbert
2017-09-19  0:38 ` [PATCH net-next 07/14] gtp: Support encapsulation of IPv6 packets Tom Herbert
2017-09-19  4:19   ` David Miller
2017-09-19 12:12     ` Harald Welte
2017-09-19 17:42       ` David Miller
2017-09-20  0:11         ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-19 11:53   ` Harald Welte
2017-09-19  0:38 ` [PATCH net-next 08/14] gtp: Support encpasulating over IPv6 Tom Herbert
2017-09-19  4:19   ` David Miller
2017-09-20 18:03     ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-20 19:45       ` David Miller
2017-09-20 20:40         ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-21  0:04           ` Harald Welte [this message]
2017-09-21  0:16             ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-19 11:59   ` Harald Welte
2017-09-19  0:38 ` [PATCH net-next 09/14] gtp: Allow configuring GTP interface as standalone Tom Herbert
2017-09-20 15:27   ` Andreas Schultz
2017-09-20 15:57     ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-20 16:07       ` Andreas Schultz
2017-09-20 16:24         ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-21  0:13           ` Harald Welte
2017-09-21  0:55             ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-21 15:12               ` Harald Welte
2017-09-21 16:43                 ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-24  2:16                   ` Harald Welte
2017-09-24 15:55                     ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-24 16:25                       ` Harald Welte
2017-09-24 17:18                         ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-19  0:39 ` [PATCH net-next 10/14] gtp: Add support for devnet Tom Herbert
2017-09-19  0:39 ` [PATCH net-next 11/14] net: Add a facility to support application defined GSO Tom Herbert
2017-09-19  4:21   ` David Miller
2017-09-19  0:39 ` [PATCH net-next 12/14] gtp: Configuration for zero UDP checksum Tom Herbert
2017-09-19  4:24   ` David Miller
2017-09-20 18:09     ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-21  1:55       ` Harald Welte
2017-09-21 22:41         ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-19  0:39 ` [PATCH net-next 13/14] gtp: Support for GRO Tom Herbert
2017-09-19 11:57   ` kbuild test robot
2017-09-19 12:03   ` Harald Welte
2017-09-19  0:39 ` [PATCH net-next 14/14] gtp: GSO support Tom Herbert
2017-09-19 12:43 ` [PATCH net-next 00/14] gtp: Additional feature support Harald Welte
2017-09-19 15:59   ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-19 23:19     ` Harald Welte
2017-09-19 23:47       ` Tom Herbert
2017-09-21 15:38         ` Harald Welte
2017-09-20 15:34       ` Andreas Schultz

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