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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/2] DSA trace events
Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2023 15:47:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230426154713.6706865f@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230426194301.mtw2d5ooi3ywtxad@skbuf>

On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 22:43:01 +0300
Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com> wrote:

> Instead of living in fear that this might happen, I think what would be
> the most productive thing to do would be to just create a proper API in
> the next kernel development cycle to expose just that information, and
> point other people to that other API, and keep the trace events just for
> debugging.

I also want to add that if a tool does use a trace event that was not your
intention, you can then fix the tool to do it properly.

I had this with powertop. It had hardcoded events (did not use
libtraceevent) and when I modified the layout, it broke, and Linus reverted
my changes. After fixing powertop to do things properly, I was able to get
my changes back in.

So even if you do break user space, you can still fix it later.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-26 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-07 14:14 [PATCH net-next 0/2] DSA trace events Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-07 14:14 ` [PATCH net-next 1/2] net: dsa: add trace points for FDB/MDB operations Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-07 14:14 ` [PATCH net-next 2/2] net: dsa: add trace points for VLAN operations Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-12  0:48 ` [PATCH net-next 0/2] DSA trace events Andrew Lunn
2023-04-12  9:55   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-21 12:38     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2023-04-21 12:47       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-24 22:25         ` Steven Rostedt
2023-04-26 19:13           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-26 19:23             ` Steven Rostedt
2023-04-26 19:43               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-26 19:47                 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2023-04-26 21:07                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-27  0:33                 ` Andrew Lunn
2023-04-12  8:30 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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