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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 net-next 08/15] net: softnet_data: Make xmit.recursion per task.
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2024 10:27:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240614082758.6pSMV3aq@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240612131829.2e33ca71@rorschach.local.home>

On 2024-06-12 13:18:29 [-0400], Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 18:44:34 +0200
> Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> wrote:
> 
> > Softirq is preemptible on PREEMPT_RT. Without a per-CPU lock in
> > local_bh_disable() there is no guarantee that only one device is
> > transmitting at a time.
> > With preemption and multiple senders it is possible that the per-CPU
> > recursion counter gets incremented by different threads and exceeds
> > XMIT_RECURSION_LIMIT leading to a false positive recursion alert.
> > 
> > Instead of adding a lock to protect the per-CPU variable it is simpler
> > to make the counter per-task. Sending and receiving skbs happens always
> > in thread context anyway.
> > 
> > Having a lock to protected the per-CPU counter would block/ serialize two
> > sending threads needlessly. It would also require a recursive lock to
> > ensure that the owner can increment the counter further.
> > 
> > Make the recursion counter a task_struct member on PREEMPT_RT.
> 
> I'm curious to what would be the harm to using a per_task counter
> instead of per_cpu outside of PREEMPT_RT. That way, we wouldn't have to
> have the #ifdef.

There should be a hole on !RT, too so we shouldn't gain weight. The
limit is set to 8 so an u8 would be enough. The counter is only accessed
with BH-disabled so it will be used only in one context since it can't
schedule().

I think it should work fine. netdev folks, you want me to remove that
ifdef and use a per-Task counter unconditionally?

> -- Steve

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-14  8:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-12 16:44 [PATCH v6 net-next 00/15] locking: Introduce nested-BH locking Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-12 16:44 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 01/15] locking/local_lock: Introduce guard definition for local_lock Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-12 16:44 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 02/15] locking/local_lock: Add local nested BH locking infrastructure Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-12 16:44 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 03/15] net: Use __napi_alloc_frag_align() instead of open coding it Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-12 16:44 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 04/15] net: Use nested-BH locking for napi_alloc_cache Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-12 16:44 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 05/15] net/tcp_sigpool: Use nested-BH locking for sigpool_scratch Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-12 16:44 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 06/15] net/ipv4: Use nested-BH locking for ipv4_tcp_sk Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-12 16:44 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 07/15] netfilter: br_netfilter: Use nested-BH locking for brnf_frag_data_storage Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-12 16:44 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 08/15] net: softnet_data: Make xmit.recursion per task Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-12 17:18   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-14  8:27     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2024-06-14  8:38       ` Eric Dumazet
2024-06-14  9:48         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-14 14:08           ` Paolo Abeni
2024-06-14 16:04             ` Steven Rostedt
2024-06-14 16:04             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-14 16:01           ` [PATCH v6.5 08/15] net: softnet_data: Make xmit " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-12 16:44 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 09/15] dev: Remove PREEMPT_RT ifdefs from backlog_lock.*() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-12 16:44 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 10/15] dev: Use nested-BH locking for softnet_data.process_queue Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-12 16:44 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 11/15] lwt: Don't disable migration prio invoking BPF Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-12 16:44 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 12/15] seg6: Use nested-BH locking for seg6_bpf_srh_states Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-12 16:44 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 13/15] net: Use nested-BH locking for bpf_scratchpad Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-12 16:44 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 14/15] net: Reference bpf_redirect_info via task_struct on PREEMPT_RT Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-13  9:32   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-06-12 16:44 ` [PATCH v6 net-next 15/15] net: Move per-CPU flush-lists to bpf_net_context " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-06-13  9:33   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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