From: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
To: Alexander Wilhelm <alexander.wilhelm@westermo.com>,
"Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Aquantia PHY in OCSGMII mode?
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2025 12:28:59 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250828092859.vvejz6xrarisbl2w@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aK7MV2TrkVKwOEpr@shell.armlinux.org.uk>
On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 10:13:59AM +0100, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 11:03:42AM +0200, Alexander Wilhelm wrote:
> > I asked the hardware engineer again. The point is that the MAC does not set
> > SGMII for 100M. It still uses 2500base-x but with 10x paket repetition.
>
> No one uses symbol repetition when in 2500base-x mode. Nothing supports
> it. Every device datasheet I've read states clearly that symbol
> repetition is unsupported when operating at 2.5Gbps.
>
> Also think about what this means. If the link is operating at 2.5Gbps
> with a 10x symbol repetition, that means the link would be passing
> 250Mbps. That's not compatible with _anything_.
FWIW, claim 5 of this active Cisco patent suggests dividing frames into
2 segments, replicating symbols from the first segment twice and symbols
from the second segment three times.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7356047B1/en
I'm completely unaware of any implementations of this either, though.
To remain on topic, I don't see how the hardware engineer's claim can be
true. The PCS symbol replication is done through the IF_MODE_SPEED
field, which lynx_pcs_link_up_2500basex() sets to SGMII_SPEED_2500 (same
as SGMII_SPEED_1000, i.e. no replication). You can confirm that the
IF_MODE register has the expected value by putting a print.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-28 9:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-31 14:59 Aquantia PHY in OCSGMII mode? Alexander Wilhelm
2025-07-31 15:14 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-07-31 16:02 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-01 5:44 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-04 14:53 ` Andrew Lunn
2025-07-31 17:16 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-07-31 19:26 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-01 5:50 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-01 11:01 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-01 11:54 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-01 11:58 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-01 12:06 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-01 12:23 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-01 12:36 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-01 13:04 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-01 14:02 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-01 14:37 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-04 6:17 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-04 10:01 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-04 13:01 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-04 13:41 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-04 14:47 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-04 16:00 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-04 16:02 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-05 7:59 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-05 10:20 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-05 12:44 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-06 14:58 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-07 5:56 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-27 5:57 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-27 7:31 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-27 8:41 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-27 8:47 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-27 9:03 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-27 9:13 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-28 9:28 ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2025-10-02 5:54 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-10-07 14:08 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-10-08 7:47 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-10-08 11:10 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-10-08 12:52 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-10-08 13:00 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-10-08 13:28 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-10-08 14:55 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-10-09 6:05 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-27 8:08 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-27 8:32 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-27 8:45 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-04 14:22 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2025-08-04 14:51 ` Alexander Wilhelm
2025-08-04 14:56 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-01 11:13 ` Vladimir Oltean
2025-08-01 5:53 ` Alexander Wilhelm
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