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From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
To: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	"Mohit P. Tahiliani" <tahiliani@nitk.edu.in>,
	"Sachin D . Patil" <sdp.sachin@gmail.com>,
	"V. Saicharan" <vsaicharan1998@gmail.com>,
	Mohit Bhasi <mohitbhasi1998@gmail.com>,
	Leslie Monis <lesliemonis@gmail.com>,
	Gautam Ramakrishnan <gautamramk@gmail.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, vega@nebusec.ai,
	Victor Nogueira <victor@mojatatu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v3 4/6] net/sched: fq_pie: clamp default quantum to avoid signed overflow
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2026 11:43:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4d9d542e-e25d-4ba4-b7c4-e51c82f3732d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM0EoMkwr5idTgLSfB3azrfbBasGVGXrOPSJMUpyQKkgCgZgTw@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/25/26 11:16 AM, Jamal Hadi Salim wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2026 at 4:33 AM Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 8/22/26 9:55 PM, Jamal Hadi Salim wrote:
>>> fq_pie_init() sets q->quantum = psched_mtu(qdisc_dev(sch)) without
>>> clamping. A device with a huge MTU (e.g. dummy with max_mtu == 0
>>> accepting MTU 2147483634) makes psched_mtu() return 0x80000000, which
>>> overflows the signed flow->deficit to INT_MIN in fq_pie_qdisc_dequeue(),
>>> causing an infinite loop and soft lockup. Emulate fq_pie_policy which
>>> is already bounded to [1, 1 << 20]; clamp the default to [256, 1 << 20].
>>> 256 matches fq_codel's floor and is a sane minimum for a DRR quantum.
>>>
>>> Conditions to recreate the bug: a device whose MTU (plus
>>> hard_header_len) wraps psched_mtu() into the sign bit (e.g. a dummy
>>> device with max_mtu == 0 accepting MTU 2147483634). Requires
>>> CAP_NET_ADMIN in a user namespace.
>>>
>>> Fixes: ec97ecf1ebe4 ("net: sched: add Flow Queue PIE packet scheduler")
>>> Reported-by: vega@nebusec.ai
>>> Tested-by: Victor Nogueira <victor@mojatatu.com>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
>>> ---
>>>  net/sched/sch_fq_pie.c | 3 ++-
>>>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/net/sched/sch_fq_pie.c b/net/sched/sch_fq_pie.c
>>> index 069e1facd413..b27d95418707 100644
>>> --- a/net/sched/sch_fq_pie.c
>>> +++ b/net/sched/sch_fq_pie.c
>>> @@ -427,7 +427,8 @@ static int fq_pie_init(struct Qdisc *sch, struct nlattr *opt,
>>>       pie_params_init(&q->p_params);
>>>       sch->limit = 10 * 1024;
>>>       q->p_params.limit = sch->limit;
>>> -     q->quantum = psched_mtu(qdisc_dev(sch));
>>> +     q->quantum = clamp_t(u32, psched_mtu(qdisc_dev(sch)),
>>> +                          256, 1 << 20);
>>
>> Sashiko thinks that the soft lookup is still reachable via pie_change:
>>
>> https://netdev-ai.bots.linux.dev/sashiko/#/patchset/20260822195509.112717-1-jhs%40mojatatu.com
>>
>> and has similar concerns for patch 6/6, too. It marks the issues as
>> pre-existing, but AFAICS they overlap with the things addressed here.
>>
>> WDYT?
> 
> You are right, they overlap. I had them as followups (with a few
> others derived from the sashiko feedback with justification that the
> v3 init-path clamps are independently correct and the stab cap already
> mitigates the change-path worst case to a stall; but those two a
> (adding max(256U, ...) to both fq_pie_change() and sfq_change(),
> matching the fq_codel_change()) are more serious.
> So if you'd prefer a v4 respin of the whole series, I can do that.

I initially did not notice that the _change path would lead to
"upper-bounded" stall, I think a follow-up is fine.
> Sashiko is a double edge sword - i think code quality is improving but
> it feels like the work load has doubled ;->

FWIW, I agree with the "double edge" assessment.
A reference we must keep in mind is that there is no way back, so we
need to adapt somehow.

> Here's what i had as followups (some still to be vetted, just noting
> what sashiko is stating to be reviewed later when cycles available and
> potential followup patches sent):
> - sch_dualpi2 unclamped psched_mtu
> - sch_pie unclamped psched_mtu → AQM disable / div-by-zero
> - hhf TCA_HHF_HH_FLOWS_LIMIT unbounded
> - fq_pie_change() / sfq_change() 256 floor missing (one that you bring up here)
> - DRR/ETS quantum=0 spin (have a patch, was reported already as a bug by vega@)
> - Consider two separate clamps for fq_codel/sch_codel (nipa
> gpt-5-6-sol-3-15): quantum in [256, FQ_CODEL_QUANTUM_MAX], mtubounded
> separately (no 256 floor on mtu)
FWIW, LGTM!

/P


  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-25  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-22 19:55 [PATCH net v3 0/6] net: sched: fix quantum/mtu overflow in fq, fq_codel, sch_codel, fq_pie, hhf, sfq Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-22 19:55 ` [PATCH net v3 1/6] net/sched: fq: add overflow bounds to quantum and initial quantum Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-25 10:03   ` Eric Dumazet
2026-08-25 10:43     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-25 11:02       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-22 19:55 ` [PATCH net v3 2/6] net/sched: fq_codel: clamp default quantum and mtu Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-22 19:55 ` [PATCH net v3 3/6] net/sched: sch_codel: clamp default mtu to avoid disabling CoDel Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-22 19:55 ` [PATCH net v3 4/6] net/sched: fq_pie: clamp default quantum to avoid signed overflow Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-25  8:33   ` Paolo Abeni
2026-08-25  9:16     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-25  9:43       ` Paolo Abeni [this message]
2026-08-25  9:48         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-22 19:55 ` [PATCH net v3 5/6] net/sched: hhf: clamp quantum before hhf_change() to avoid overflow Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-22 19:55 ` [PATCH net v3 6/6] net/sched: sfq: clamp quantum to avoid signed overflow soft lockup Jamal Hadi Salim
2026-08-25 11:30 ` [PATCH net v3 0/6] net: sched: fix quantum/mtu overflow in fq, fq_codel, sch_codel, fq_pie, hhf, sfq patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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