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From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>
To: Giuliano Pochini <pochini@shiny.it>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com,
	cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com,
	"Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
Subject: Re: tcp vulnerability?  haven't seen anything on it here...
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 07:35:54 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0404220734330.8039@chaos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.20040422102359.pochini@shiny.it>

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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Giuliano Pochini wrote:

>
> On 21-Apr-2004 David S. Miller wrote:
> > On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:03:40 +0200
> > Jörn Engel <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> wrote:
> >
> >> Heise.de made it appear, as if the only news was that with tcp
> >> windows, the propability of guessing the right sequence number is not
> >> 1:2^32 but something smaller.  They said that 64k packets would be
> >> enough, so guess what the window will be.
> >
> > Yes, that is their major discovery.  You need to guess the ports
> > and source/destination addresses as well, which is why I don't
> > consider this such a serious issue personally.
>
> Yes, but it is possible, expecially for long sessions. Also,
> data injections is also possible with the same method, because
> the receiver accepts everything inside the window, which is
> usually 64k. Out of curiosity: in case Linux receives two
> packets relative to the same portion of the stream, does it
> check if the overlapping data is the same ? It would add extra
> security about data injection in case the data has not been
> sent to userspace yet.
>
>

Has anybody checked to see what Linux does if it receives a
RST to the broadcast address? It would be a shame if all
connections were dropped!


Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.26 on an i686 machine (5557.45 BogoMips).
            Note 96.31% of all statistics are fiction.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-22 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-21 15:25 tcp vulnerability? haven't seen anything on it here Chris Friesen
2004-04-21 16:02 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-21 16:25   ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-21 17:03     ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-21 20:20       ` David S. Miller
2004-04-22  0:45         ` James Morris
2004-04-22  5:04           ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-22  8:23         ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-04-22 11:35           ` Richard B. Johnson [this message]
2004-04-22 13:17             ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-22 13:42               ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-22 14:18                 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-22 20:25                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-22 21:08                     ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-22 18:28             ` David S. Miller
2004-04-22 13:22           ` jamal
2004-04-22 13:46             ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-04-22 14:27               ` jamal
2004-04-22 14:37                 ` alex
2004-04-22 15:17                   ` jamal
2004-04-22 15:27                     ` alex
2004-04-22 17:38                       ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-22 21:15                         ` Florian Weimer
2004-04-22 15:42                   ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-22 15:47                     ` alex
2004-04-23 10:31                   ` Florian Weimer
2004-04-22 13:58             ` Florian Weimer
2004-04-23 13:55             ` Florian Weimer
2004-04-23 14:15             ` alex
2004-04-23 14:25               ` jamal
2004-04-22 20:01         ` Ranjeet Shetye
2004-04-22 21:26         ` Sridhar Samudrala

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