From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@w.ods.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: tcp vulnerability? haven't seen anything on it here...
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:25:19 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0404221621130.610@chaos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040422141848.GA6986@alpha.home.local>
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> Richard,
>
> you are confusing several thinks, stateful vs stateless protocols. A ping
> doesn't need a session on the remote host to be interpreted. A TCP segment
> whose flags don't show a SYN need a session to be interpreted. Please note
> that I'm not arguing that you won't crash a linux box with an RST addressed
> to a broadcast address, I'm saying that there's absolutely no reason why
> this should reset all connections, as you proposed it. Someone would have
> had to code this explicitly, it cannot be a simple side effect.
>
> Imagine that each packet which enters the system is presented to a hash
> table containing the sessions, and that its session is looked for into
> this hash table. You agree that in such code, there's no reason to find
> anything that runs through all sessions and kill everyone, since this
> code has no use there, and has no reason to be implemented on purpose !
>
> Look at functions such as tcp_v4_lookup() in net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c for
> example. When it reaches tcp_v4_lookup_established(), you find this :
>
> for(sk = head->chain; sk; sk = sk->next) {
> if(TCP_IPV4_MATCH(sk, acookie, saddr, daddr, ports, dif))
> goto hit; /* You sunk my battleship! */
> }
>
> You cannot match more than once.
[SNIPPED...]
So you are sure an attacker will fire only one bullet?
Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.26 on an i686 machine (5557.45 BogoMips).
Note 96.31% of all statistics are fiction.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-04-22 20:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-04-21 15:25 tcp vulnerability? haven't seen anything on it here Chris Friesen
2004-04-21 16:02 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-21 16:25 ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-21 17:03 ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-21 20:20 ` David S. Miller
2004-04-22 0:45 ` James Morris
2004-04-22 5:04 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-22 8:23 ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-04-22 11:35 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-22 13:17 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-22 13:42 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-22 14:18 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-22 20:25 ` Richard B. Johnson [this message]
2004-04-22 21:08 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-22 18:28 ` David S. Miller
2004-04-22 13:22 ` jamal
2004-04-22 13:46 ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-04-22 14:27 ` jamal
2004-04-22 14:37 ` alex
2004-04-22 15:17 ` jamal
2004-04-22 15:27 ` alex
2004-04-22 17:38 ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-22 21:15 ` Florian Weimer
2004-04-22 15:42 ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-22 15:47 ` alex
2004-04-23 10:31 ` Florian Weimer
2004-04-22 13:58 ` Florian Weimer
2004-04-23 13:55 ` Florian Weimer
2004-04-23 14:15 ` alex
2004-04-23 14:25 ` jamal
2004-04-22 20:01 ` Ranjeet Shetye
2004-04-22 21:26 ` Sridhar Samudrala
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