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From: "Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>
To: Willy Tarreau <w@w.ods.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: tcp vulnerability?  haven't seen anything on it here...
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:25:19 -0400 (EDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0404221621130.610@chaos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040422141848.GA6986@alpha.home.local>

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Willy Tarreau wrote:

> Richard,
>
> you are confusing several thinks, stateful vs stateless protocols. A ping
> doesn't need a session on the remote host to be interpreted. A TCP segment
> whose flags don't show a SYN need a session to be interpreted. Please note
> that I'm not arguing that you won't crash a linux box with an RST addressed
> to a broadcast address, I'm saying that there's absolutely no reason why
> this should reset all connections, as you proposed it. Someone would have
> had to code this explicitly, it cannot be a simple side effect.
>
> Imagine that each packet which enters the system is presented to a hash
> table containing the sessions, and that its session is looked for into
> this hash table. You agree that in such code, there's no reason to find
> anything that runs through all sessions and kill everyone, since this
> code has no use there, and has no reason to be implemented on purpose !
>
> Look at functions such as tcp_v4_lookup() in net/ipv4/tcp_ipv4.c for
> example. When it reaches tcp_v4_lookup_established(), you find this :
>
>         for(sk = head->chain; sk; sk = sk->next) {
>                 if(TCP_IPV4_MATCH(sk, acookie, saddr, daddr, ports, dif))
>                         goto hit; /* You sunk my battleship! */
>         }
>
> You cannot match more than once.

[SNIPPED...]

So you are sure an attacker will fire only one bullet?

Cheers,
Dick Johnson
Penguin : Linux version 2.4.26 on an i686 machine (5557.45 BogoMips).
            Note 96.31% of all statistics are fiction.

  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-22 20:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-21 15:25 tcp vulnerability? haven't seen anything on it here Chris Friesen
2004-04-21 16:02 ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-21 16:25   ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-21 17:03     ` Jörn Engel
2004-04-21 20:20       ` David S. Miller
2004-04-22  0:45         ` James Morris
2004-04-22  5:04           ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-22  8:23         ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-04-22 11:35           ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-22 13:17             ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-22 13:42               ` Richard B. Johnson
2004-04-22 14:18                 ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-22 20:25                   ` Richard B. Johnson [this message]
2004-04-22 21:08                     ` Willy Tarreau
2004-04-22 18:28             ` David S. Miller
2004-04-22 13:22           ` jamal
2004-04-22 13:46             ` Giuliano Pochini
2004-04-22 14:27               ` jamal
2004-04-22 14:37                 ` alex
2004-04-22 15:17                   ` jamal
2004-04-22 15:27                     ` alex
2004-04-22 17:38                       ` Horst von Brand
2004-04-22 21:15                         ` Florian Weimer
2004-04-22 15:42                   ` Chris Friesen
2004-04-22 15:47                     ` alex
2004-04-23 10:31                   ` Florian Weimer
2004-04-22 13:58             ` Florian Weimer
2004-04-23 13:55             ` Florian Weimer
2004-04-23 14:15             ` alex
2004-04-23 14:25               ` jamal
2004-04-22 20:01         ` Ranjeet Shetye
2004-04-22 21:26         ` Sridhar Samudrala

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