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From: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	davem@davemloft.net, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>,
	Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] Documentation: networking: Add a test plan for ethtool pause validation
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2026 18:03:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a343776c-02ea-475c-a354-7cdfc647afeb@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dfee1484-fa2a-4b98-af5a-1e67ac716905@lunn.ch>


> 
> Does it even make sense to advertise this when in HD? But i don't
> think we need to consider this now. I consider HD low priority, i
> doubt it is actually used very often. We should concentrate on FD
> testing.

That's fine by me as well, let's keep it simple, we may revisit that if
we really need to.

> 
>> # ethtool -a eth2
>> Autonegotiate:	on
>> RX:		off
>> TX:		off
>> RX negotiated: on
>> TX negotiated: on
>>
>>
>> Sure, pause and HD don't make sense, however what I find confusing to some
>> extent is that the only place we have information about the *actual* pause
>> settings is the "link is Up" log in dmesg.
> 
> Maybe we should extend ksetting get to return the resolved pause
> parameters? But i'm not sure how much that actually gives us. Anything
> using phylink will just ask phylink to fill in the ksettings
> information, and it seems unlikely phylink gets it wrong. What we are
> really trying to test is drivers which don't user phylink, those are
> the ones which are generally broken, and they are not going to
> implement anything new in ksettings.

Correct yes. If the MAC driver uses phylink and a test fails, it very likely
means that the PHY driver is doing shady stuff (and some are/were for pause)

> So i think the test has to look
> at:
> 
>> 	Advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
>> 	Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric Receive-only
> 
> and check these match what we expect.

All good for me :) thanks for you feedback,

Maxime

      reply	other threads:[~2026-06-25 16:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-22 17:51 [PATCH net-next] Documentation: networking: Add a test plan for ethtool pause validation Maxime Chevallier (Netdev Foundation)
2026-05-27  0:24 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-27  2:47   ` Andrew Lunn
2026-05-27  7:07     ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-05-27 12:08       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-05-29  1:39         ` Xuan Zhuo
2026-05-29  2:52           ` Andrew Lunn
2026-05-27 23:25     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-29  7:24       ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-05-29 12:30         ` Andrew Lunn
2026-05-29  7:42       ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-05-29  7:50         ` Oleksij Rempel
2026-06-25 15:29     ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-06-25 16:12       ` Andrew Lunn
2026-06-26  8:33         ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-06-26 12:39           ` Andrew Lunn
2026-06-26 12:51             ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-05-27  6:41   ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-05-27  3:13 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-05-28  1:15 ` Andrew Lunn
2026-05-29  8:07   ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-05-29 12:59     ` Andrew Lunn
2026-05-29 13:20       ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-06-25 10:46       ` Maxime Chevallier
2026-06-25 15:46         ` Andrew Lunn
2026-06-25 16:03           ` Maxime Chevallier [this message]

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