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From: Stefano Garzarella <sgarzare@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Arseniy Krasnov" <avkrasnov@salutedevices.com>,
	"Bobby Eshleman" <bobbyeshleman@meta.com>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, eric.dumazet@gmail.com,
	"Arseniy Krasnov" <AVKrasnov@sberdevices.ru>,
	"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"Xuan Zhuo" <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Eugenio Pérez" <eperezma@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] vsock/virtio: fix potential unbounded skb queue
Date: Fri, 8 May 2026 12:11:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <af21ZGlANY6UUCKx@sgarzare-redhat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260508055343-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Fri, May 08, 2026 at 05:58:06AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>On Fri, May 08, 2026 at 11:41:21AM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
>> On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 06:48:47PM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> > On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 02:59:13PM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
>> > > On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 07:45:10AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> > > > On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 11:09:47AM +0200, Stefano Garzarella wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> > > > > For now, we're already doing something:
>> > > > > merging the skuffs if they don't have EOM set.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Right that's good. You could go further and merge with EOM too
>> > > > if you stick the info about message boundaries somewhere else.
>> > >
>> > > This adds a lot of complexity IMO, but we can try.
>> > >
>> > > Do you have something in mind?
>> >
>> > BER is clearly overkill but here's a POC that claude made for me,
>> > just to give u an idea. It's clearly has a ton of issues,
>> > for example I dislike how GFP_ATOMIC is handled.
>>
>> Okay, I somewhat understand, but clearly this isn't net material
>
>I doubt we have many other options given reverting the regression was
>ruled out.

As Eric pointed out, we can't revert it.

>
>
>> so for now
>> I think the best thing to do is to merge the fixup I sent (or something
>> similar):
>> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20260508092330.69690-1-sgarzare@redhat.com/
>
>I reviewed that one, problem is it's a spec violation/change that we'll
>have to support forever.

I have a few points to make on this, but let's discuss them there.

>
>> This is a major change that should be merged with more caution.
>> Could this have too much of an impact on performance?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Stefano
>
>It's really a POC, real patch is left as an excersise for the reader 
>:).

eheh, I see, but honestly, this overcomplication scares me. I'll try to 
think it over.

>The correct approach IMHO is to only start using this
>when we wasted a lot of memory on small packets.
>
>For example, if sum(truesize) >= buf size.
>
>then we'll not see a perf impact unless it's already pathological.

Agree on this, which is similar to what I'm doing in that patch.  
Reducing the advertised buf_alloc only in pathological cases (e.g.  
overhead > buf_alloc).

Stefano


  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-08 10:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-30 12:26 [PATCH net] vsock/virtio: fix potential unbounded skb queue Eric Dumazet
2026-05-05  2:20 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
2026-05-05 13:51 ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-05-05 14:14   ` Eric Dumazet
2026-05-05 16:11     ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-05-05 16:37       ` Bobby Eshleman
2026-05-06  9:50         ` Arseniy Krasnov
2026-05-06 14:00           ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-05-06 15:37       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-05-07  9:09         ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-05-07 11:45           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-05-07 12:59             ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-05-07 14:33               ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-07 16:05                 ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-05-07 16:32                   ` Eric Dumazet
2026-05-07 17:18                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-05-08  9:26                       ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-05-07 14:52               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-05-07 22:48               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-05-08  9:41                 ` Stefano Garzarella
2026-05-08  9:43                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-05-08  9:58                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-05-08 10:11                     ` Stefano Garzarella [this message]
2026-05-06 15:15     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-05-06 15:38       ` Eric Dumazet
2026-05-06 15:49         ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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