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From: Bernhard Bock <mailinglists@bock.nu>
To: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
Cc: netfilter@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: conntrackd failover works partially, was Re: conntrack performance test results in INVALID packets
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:18:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48BD5931.7050703@bock.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48BD362C.8020301@netfilter.org>

Pablo,

Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> I though that your problem was that you cannot even recover the flows in
> the first failover, but it seems to me that you have triggered several
> fail-overs between the nodes. There's no way to hit this in a clean
> session - ie. empty connection tracking table. 

Well, there are several thousand connections established and teared down
on the primary node before the secondary nodes takes over, but as far as
I can tell there is no "bouncing" between the nodes. So, there's no
empty connection tracking table at failover time:

1. Stop conntrackd
2. Clear conntrack table
3. Restart Fedora iptables service (see below)
4. Start conntrackd
-> 0 connections
5. Start traffic
-> lots of connections
6. fail-over

> If you are triggering several fail-overs with unclean session, the new
> script should help. So please, give it a try. It will take you a couple
> of minutes to get it working.

Your script makes things worse for me, as it drops a lot of traffic on
switchover.

In my setup, it helps a lot to let INVALID packets pass for a couple of
seconds after switchover and return to the “normal” policy only after
this time. I coded this into my keepalived scripts. During this time,
some state recovers and most of the sessions actually work afterwards.
With a “hard” failover, nearly all sessions get lost.


One more thing I just noticed: It is not sufficient to clear the
conntrack table with 'conntrack -F'. I have to unload and reload the
iptables kernel modules to make it work again. This is done by the
Fedora init scripts for iptables. Without this, after a "broken"
fail-over, the machine keeps dropping some (few) packets even without
conntrackd and a second node involved. After reloading the modules,
everything's fine again. I guess this hints towards searching in the
kernel space and not in the conntrack-tools?!

Best regards
Bernhard

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-02 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-18  9:39 conntrack performance test results in INVALID packets Bernhard Bock
2008-07-18 10:13 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-07-18 10:52   ` Bernhard Bock
2008-07-18 12:14     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-07-18 14:20       ` conntrackd failover works partially, was " Bernhard Bock
2008-07-21  0:37         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-07-21 14:22           ` conntrackd failover works partially Bernhard Bock
2008-07-23  8:51             ` Bernhard Bock
2008-07-23 12:50             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-07-23 15:20               ` Bernhard Bock
2008-08-08  8:47         ` conntrackd failover works partially, was Re: conntrack performance test results in INVALID packets Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-08-08 12:58           ` Bernhard Bock
2008-09-02  9:39           ` Bernhard Bock
2008-09-02  9:56             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-09-02 12:34               ` Bernhard Bock
2008-09-02 12:48                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-09-02 15:18                   ` Bernhard Bock [this message]
2008-09-02 16:22                     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-09-02 16:55                       ` Bernhard Bock
2008-09-03  9:13                         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-09-03 11:26                           ` Bernhard Bock
2008-09-04 12:29                             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-09-04 13:27                               ` Bernhard Bock
2008-09-05 10:55                                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2008-09-04 11:40                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso

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