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From: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Patches and discussions about the oe-core layer
	<openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] libc-locale: split locale handling from libc recipe.
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 12:29:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1307618944.15712.150.camel@rex> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1307618044.2529.4810.camel@phil-desktop>

On Thu, 2011-06-09 at 12:14 +0100, Phil Blundell wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 16:35 +0100, Richard Purdie wrote:
> > I'm not sure how this would reduce performance of builds of a few
> > threads, it should just make better use of any available "spare"
> > processing capacity throughout the build.
> 
> If I'm reading the patch right, it does involve a certain amount of
> extra copying around of the locale-related files since they need to be
> stashed away in some place where libc-locale.bb can find them later.  I
> don't think these files are especially big, but there are quite a few of
> them (which is the whole reason that libc's do_package was slow in the
> first place). 
> 
> I must admit that I'm slightly surprised that libc's packaging stage is
> becoming a bottleneck for anything other than the very smallest builds.
> If there's any substantial amount of other material being compiled then
> I would expect that there would be enough do_compile() work to keep the
> other threads busy until libc was done packaging.  That's not to say
> that I think this change is a bad idea, but I would be interested to
> know what the actual impact is for real-world workloads.
> 
> And, just on a point of principle, any time we're making a chance for
> performance-related reasons I think we should always have measurements
> to back it up. 

Totally agreed and this decision is being made on real world data even
if its perhaps not clearly being presented here.

$ cat buildstats/core-image-sato-qemux86/201106030912/eglibc-2.13-r1+svnr13356/do_package | grep time
eglibc-2.13-r1+svnr13356: do_package: Elapsed time: 828.01 seconds

As you can see, eglibc do_package takes about 14 minutes which is about
14% of our build time. That is a long time to block pretty much all
packaging activity, particularly if you have access to something with
several cores. When it does complete, even on my 4 core system you see a
"stampeding herd" of packaging happening on the build charts suggesting
a backlog does build up.

For those reasons I do think its a reasonable change.

Cheers,

Richard











  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-09 11:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-08  9:08 [PATCH 0/1][RFC] libc locale split Dongxiao Xu
2011-06-08  9:08 ` [PATCH 1/1] libc-locale: split locale handling from libc recipe Dongxiao Xu
2011-06-08  9:36   ` Phil Blundell
2011-06-08 15:35     ` Richard Purdie
2011-06-09 11:14       ` Phil Blundell
2011-06-09 11:29         ` Richard Purdie [this message]
2011-06-09 11:43           ` Phil Blundell
2011-06-09 13:15             ` Richard Purdie
2011-06-09 13:51               ` Richard Purdie
2011-06-09 13:53               ` Koen Kooi
2011-06-09 13:55                 ` Phil Blundell
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-06-22  9:01 [PATCH 0/1 v2][PULL] libc locale split Dongxiao Xu
2011-06-22  9:01 ` [PATCH 1/1] libc-locale: split locale handling from libc recipe Dongxiao Xu
2011-06-22 11:44   ` Phil Blundell
2011-06-23  4:08     ` Xu, Dongxiao
2011-06-23  9:40       ` Phil Blundell
2011-06-23 10:14         ` Richard Purdie
2011-06-23 23:42           ` Khem Raj
2011-06-27  5:49             ` Xu, Dongxiao
2011-06-22 14:44   ` Khem Raj
2011-06-22 14:47     ` Phil Blundell
2011-06-22 15:17       ` Mark Hatle
2011-06-22 15:43         ` Khem Raj
2011-06-27  8:37 [PATCH 0/1 v3][PULL] libc locale split Dongxiao Xu
2011-06-27  8:37 ` [PATCH 1/1] libc-locale: split locale handling from libc recipe Dongxiao Xu
2011-06-27  8:58   ` Phil Blundell
2011-06-28  0:51     ` Xu, Dongxiao
2011-06-28  9:07       ` Phil Blundell
2011-06-28 11:07         ` Richard Purdie
2011-06-28 12:17           ` Koen Kooi
2011-06-28 14:00             ` Richard Purdie
2011-06-28 19:37               ` Koen Kooi
2011-06-28 20:15                 ` Koen Kooi
2011-06-28  4:12     ` Xu, Dongxiao
2011-07-08 14:55   ` Phil Blundell

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