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From: Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Raymond Danks <ray.danks@se-eng.com>
Cc: Patches, Bruce, oe-core layer <openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
Subject: Re: meta-cloud layer
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 13:54:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1354197267.4053.4.camel@ted> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50B766CC.4030904@se-eng.com>

On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 06:44 -0700, Raymond Danks wrote:
> Thanks for looping me in here David. The initial goal for the meta-xen 
> layer was in fact to encompass Xen Cloud Platform.  As such, the intent 
> was to contain both hypervisor and user-space applications.  Indeed, the 
> xen distribution itself includes xm/libxl; hypervisor abstraction would 
> be somewhat tedious in my opinion.
> 
> The layer just received commits for expanding the libvirt build to 
> support qemu.  The commonalities and shared packaged between xen, qemu, 
> and kvm implementations are such that I would also agree that meta-xen 
> should be expanded/renamed to encompass all virtualization types; I also 
> support the move to meta-virtualization.
> 
> As far as a meta-cloud layer is concerned, I'm not sure I am 
> knowledgeable enough in this area to weigh in.  I'm currently 
> researching a filesystem implementation for OpenStack and have stumbled 
> across Ceph/RBD and Gluster modules that look promising. On top of this, 
> XCP is documented to include support for VastSky and can be integrated 
> with DRBD.  And, the storage and hypervisor are only two pieces of the 
> puzzle for a cloud implementation!
> 
> I think I would encourage you to also include OpenStack in a 
> meta-virtualization layer until it has matured to the point where 
> abstraction is more warranted.  Since you've already created a presence 
> at github, would it be possible to rename your layer to 
> meta-virtualization and absorb the entire meta-xen layer?  I can push 
> any changes for Xen/XCP here, it sounds like it is a central place for 
> libvirt and could also contain Bruce's kernel modifications.
> 
> Alternatively, I can create a meta-virtualization project.  In any case, 
> those on the To and CC list should receive access to this layer as a 
> starting point.
> 
> Just my two cents.  :)

I'd like to offer to host this combined layer (whatever we decide to
call it) on git.yoctoproject.org if that would help people and people
are interested. My only concern is in the area of maintainership, we
need to clearly define who maintains what and what the patch submission
process is in the README.

Cheers,

Richard





  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-29 14:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-28 16:10 meta-cloud layer David Nyström
2012-11-28 16:22 ` Richard Purdie
2012-11-28 17:25   ` Bruce Ashfield
2012-11-29  8:41     ` David Nyström
2012-11-29 10:05       ` Prica, Mihai
2012-11-29 13:44       ` Raymond Danks
2012-11-29 13:54         ` Richard Purdie [this message]
2012-11-30 11:29           ` David Nyström
2012-11-30 17:14             ` Raymond Danks
2012-11-30 17:25               ` Bruce Ashfield
2012-11-30 17:15             ` Saul Wold
2012-11-30 17:26               ` Bruce Ashfield
2012-11-30 18:03                 ` Michael Halstead
2012-11-30 20:17                   ` Raymond Danks
2012-11-30 23:23                     ` Michael Halstead
2012-12-01 17:30                       ` Bruce Ashfield
2012-12-01 17:41                         ` Philip Balister
2012-12-01 20:43                       ` David Nyström
2012-12-03 15:20                         ` Prica, Mihai
2012-12-03 16:00                           ` Saul Wold
2012-12-03 16:04                             ` Michael Halstead
2012-12-03 16:27                               ` Raymond Danks

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