Re: meta-cloud layer

["David Nyström" <david.c.nystrom@gmail.com>]

On 11/29/2012 02:54 PM, Richard Purdie wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 06:44 -0700, Raymond Danks wrote:
>> Thanks for looping me in here David. The initial goal for the meta-xen
>> layer was in fact to encompass Xen Cloud Platform.  As such, the intent
>> was to contain both hypervisor and user-space applications.  Indeed, the
>> xen distribution itself includes xm/libxl; hypervisor abstraction would
>> be somewhat tedious in my opinion.
>>
>> The layer just received commits for expanding the libvirt build to
>> support qemu.  The commonalities and shared packaged between xen, qemu,
>> and kvm implementations are such that I would also agree that meta-xen
>> should be expanded/renamed to encompass all virtualization types; I also
>> support the move to meta-virtualization.
>>

meta-virtualization sounds good, let co-op on this so we don't duplicate 
work.

>> As far as a meta-cloud layer is concerned, I'm not sure I am
>> knowledgeable enough in this area to weigh in.  I'm currently
>> researching a filesystem implementation for OpenStack and have stumbled
>> across Ceph/RBD and Gluster modules that look promising. On top of this,
>> XCP is documented to include support for VastSky and can be integrated
>> with DRBD.  And, the storage and hypervisor are only two pieces of the
>> puzzle for a cloud implementation!
>>

Cool !
I know, the meta-"cloud" name is quite/too ambitious, it was not meant 
to be a one week effort. But why aim low :).

>> I think I would encourage you to also include OpenStack in a
>> meta-virtualization layer until it has matured to the point where
>> abstraction is more warranted.

Agree.

>> Since you've already created a presence
>> at github, would it be possible to rename your layer to
>> meta-virtualization and absorb the entire meta-xen layer?  I can push
>> any changes for Xen/XCP here, it sounds like it is a central place for
>> libvirt and could also contain Bruce's kernel modifications.
>>
>> Alternatively, I can create a meta-virtualization project.  In any case,
>> those on the To and CC list should receive access to this layer as a
>> starting point.
>>
>> Just my two cents.  :)
>
> I'd like to offer to host this combined layer (whatever we decide to
> call it) on git.yoctoproject.org if that would help people and people
> are interested. My only concern is in the area of maintainership, we
> need to clearly define who maintains what and what the patch submission
> process is in the README.
>

Thanks,

Sounds good to centralize everything, since Raymond is the majority code 
contributor, perhaps he, if willing, can maintain the 
meta-virtualization layer.
If you want a co/sub-maintainer I'll be happy to help out.


> Cheers,
>
> Richard
>
>
>
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