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From: Mikko Rapeli <mikko.rapeli@linaro.org>
To: Trevor Woerner <twoerner@gmail.com>
Cc: openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: [OE-core] [PATCH v3 09/11] image_types_wic.bbclass: capture verbose wic output by default
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 08:19:59 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z_3sf3l8VmiXjfi_@nuoska> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250414204357.GA9290@localhost>

Hi,

On Mon, Apr 14, 2025 at 04:43:58PM -0400, Trevor Woerner wrote:
> On Fri 2025-04-04 @ 07:29:30 PM, Mikko Rapeli via lists.openembedded.org wrote:
> > Call wic with --debug to capture logs from wic internals
> > so that it's clear which partitions get created and which
> > files get copied where. wic plugins contain for example
> > race conditions which don't install files at all and thus
> > images fail to boot and it's not possible to debug these without
> > something in wic task logs.
> > 
> > For example core-image-initramfs-boot do_image_wic
> > log is now 576 lines which is not excessive but very
> > important when debugging problems, especially race
> > conditions which are only hit in some builds in CI.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Mikko Rapeli <mikko.rapeli@linaro.org>
> > ---
> >  meta/classes-recipe/image_types_wic.bbclass | 2 +-
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/meta/classes-recipe/image_types_wic.bbclass b/meta/classes-recipe/image_types_wic.bbclass
> > index 1b422b6280..10888bc12b 100644
> > --- a/meta/classes-recipe/image_types_wic.bbclass
> > +++ b/meta/classes-recipe/image_types_wic.bbclass
> > @@ -72,7 +72,7 @@ IMAGE_CMD:wic () {
> >  	if [ -z "$wks" ]; then
> >  		bbfatal "No kickstart files from WKS_FILES were found: ${WKS_FILES}. Please set WKS_FILE or WKS_FILES appropriately."
> >  	fi
> > -	BUILDDIR="${TOPDIR}" PSEUDO_UNLOAD=1 wic create "$wks" --vars "${STAGING_DIR}/${MACHINE}/imgdata/" -e "${IMAGE_BASENAME}" -o "$build_wic/" -w "$tmp_wic" ${WIC_CREATE_EXTRA_ARGS}
> > +	BUILDDIR="${TOPDIR}" PSEUDO_UNLOAD=1 wic create --debug "$wks" --vars "${STAGING_DIR}/${MACHINE}/imgdata/" -e "${IMAGE_BASENAME}" -o "$build_wic/" -w "$tmp_wic" ${WIC_CREATE_EXTRA_ARGS}
> >  
> >  	# look to see if the user specifies a custom imager
> >  	IMAGER=direct
> 
> When I need to debug a wic issue, I add "--debug" to WIC_CREATE_EXTRA_ARGS in
> my conf/local.conf, debug the issue, then submit the patch which modifies the
> layer without any debugging remnants left behind. I can then either leave wic
> debugging turned on, or turn it off for my builds as I see fit. Turning on
> debugging by default for everyone using wic is not what we should be doing.
> It will slow down builds, and will inflate log files... by miniscule amounts,
> sure, but not the direction we should be taking.

I just disagree. Default logging should not be excessive but logs should
show at high level what the task and tools executed there are doing.
wic logs without --debug are completely useless in understanding what
happened when image was created. wic logs with --debug are not excessive
but show which partitions got created and which files copied where.
Full rootfs content is not shown so logging is not excessive.

> If you feel there are messages that should be logged on every wic invocation
> (on which I doubt there will be consensus) then they should be moved out from
> behind a --debug flag. The whole point of a debug flag is to identify messages
> that do not need to be logged on every build, but only under special
> circumstances. Lots of software projects have debug flags; I can't think of any
> that turn their debug flags on by default.

I want to see which files wic copies and where, e.g. ESP boot partition, and
which partitions it created. Without --debug wic does not log these.

Some people want all logs to be empty by default, I want them to be usable
when things go wrong in builds which I did not start or even fully control.

Cheers,

-Mikko


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-15  5:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-04 16:29 [PATCH v3 00/11] systemd based initrd and modular kernel support Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] systemd: enable efi support by default Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-10 10:16   ` [OE-core] " Adrian Freihofer
2025-04-10 11:12     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-10 11:45     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 12:12       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 17:44         ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-10 17:48           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 19:19             ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-11 10:56               ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 20:53         ` Adrian Freihofer
2025-04-11 10:38           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 12:13       ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-10 12:54         ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 14:20           ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-10 14:38             ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 14:51               ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-10 15:16                 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 15:27                 ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-11  8:40   ` Mike Looijmans
2025-04-11 10:45     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-11 11:08       ` mike.looijmans
2025-04-14 16:28         ` Adrian Freihofer
2025-04-15  9:51           ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-15 10:39             ` Jose Quaresma
2025-04-15 16:20             ` Peter Kjellerstedt
2025-04-16  6:08               ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-16  9:07                 ` Koen Kooi
2025-04-16 10:10                 ` Adrian Freihofer
2025-04-16 12:54                 ` Peter Kjellerstedt
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] uki.bbclass: drop serial console from kernel command line Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] kernel.bbclass: add kernel-initrd-modules meta package Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-08  3:42   ` [OE-core] " Bruce Ashfield
2025-04-10 12:42   ` Richard Purdie
2025-04-10 13:00     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-10 13:15       ` Bruce Ashfield
2025-04-11  7:48         ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-11 12:52           ` Bruce Ashfield
2025-04-11 13:12             ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-11 13:39               ` Bruce Ashfield
2025-04-11 13:45                 ` Richard Purdie
2025-04-22 10:18                 ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-23 12:48                   ` Bruce Ashfield
     [not found]     ` <1834F69070219745.7383@lists.openembedded.org>
2025-04-11  8:07       ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] core-image-initramfs-boot: add option to build systemd based initrd Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-07  6:01   ` [OE-core] " Koen Kooi
2025-04-07  6:12     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-07  8:58       ` Koen Kooi
2025-04-07  9:08         ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-10 12:45   ` Richard Purdie
2025-04-10 13:05     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] core-image-initramfs-boot: don't install RRECOMMENDS to reduce size Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-10 12:47   ` [OE-core] " Richard Purdie
2025-04-10 13:09     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] core-image-initramfs-boot: install kernel-initrd-modules by default Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] oeqa selftest uki.py: add aarch64/arm test with systemd based initrd Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] test_efi_plugin_plain_systemd-boot: don't set console Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] image_types_wic.bbclass: capture verbose wic output by default Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-14 20:43   ` [OE-core] " Trevor Woerner
2025-04-15  5:19     ` Mikko Rapeli [this message]
2025-04-22 14:25       ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] wic bootimg-efi.py: fail build if no binaries installed Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-14 20:51   ` [OE-core] " Trevor Woerner
2025-04-15  5:03     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] image_types_wic.bbclass: depend on grub-efi and systemd-boot on aarch64, systemd-boot on arm Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-14 20:48   ` [OE-core] " Trevor Woerner
2025-04-15  5:01     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-07  7:53 ` [OE-core] [PATCH v3 00/11] systemd based initrd and modular kernel support Mathieu Dubois-Briand
2025-04-07  8:10   ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-07  8:51     ` Mathieu Dubois-Briand
2025-04-07  9:24       ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-07  9:52         ` Mathieu Dubois-Briand
2025-04-07 10:26           ` Mikko Rapeli
     [not found]           ` <18340261181AE46F.21691@lists.openembedded.org>
2025-04-07 11:13             ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-08 11:26               ` Mathieu Dubois-Briand
2025-04-08 11:39                 ` Mikko Rapeli

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