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From: Adrian Freihofer <adrian.freihofer@gmail.com>
To: mikko.rapeli@linaro.org, openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: [OE-core] [PATCH v3 01/11] systemd: enable efi support by default
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 12:16:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f84af1a6585338787539ee5be5826adbe434e8a9.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250404162932.447699-2-mikko.rapeli@linaro.org>

Hi Mikko

On Fri, 2025-04-04 at 19:29 +0300, Mikko Rapeli via
lists.openembedded.org wrote:
> For example genericarm64 enables "efi" in MACHINE_FEATURES
> and in u-boot. Boot without "efi" in systemd works with
> EFI protocols but for example efivars is not mounted at
> all so various checks fail in userspace. Fix these by
> enabling "efi" support by default to avoid making
> it machine specific. Fixes efivars mount to
> /sys/firmware/efi/efivars etc.

My point is that many OE/Yocto-based embedded products rely on a fully
redundant and power fail-safe firmware update and boot implementation.
So far I have not understood how this could be implemented in a
similarly robust way based on EFI as we have now without EFI-based
boot-up. I would therefore like to see the EFI implementation remain
opt-in until it covers at least the most important use cases for robust
embedded systems. What I primarily miss with EFI is a reference
implementation for an A/B update system without having to rely on a FAT
partition without journaling. Please correct me if I'm missing
something!

Would it make sense to declare poky as an EFI ready reference
distribution by enabling the efi DISTRO_FEATURE there, rather than
starting with making recipes enabling efi unconditionally?

Could something like this in poky.conf work?
DISTRO_FEATURES:append:aarch64 = " efi"
DISTRO_FEATURES:append:riscv64 = " efi"
DISTRO_FEATURES:append:x86-64 = " efi"

Thank you and regards,
Adrian

> 
> Signed-off-by: Mikko Rapeli <mikko.rapeli@linaro.org>
> ---
>  meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_257.4.bb | 3 ++-
>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_257.4.bb
> b/meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_257.4.bb
> index 64fb8fe69a..06e5621398 100644
> --- a/meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_257.4.bb
> +++ b/meta/recipes-core/systemd/systemd_257.4.bb
> @@ -68,13 +68,14 @@ PAM_PLUGINS = " \
>  "
>  
>  PACKAGECONFIG ??= " \
> -    ${@bb.utils.filter('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'acl audit apparmor efi
> ldconfig pam pni-names selinux smack polkit seccomp', d)} \
> +    ${@bb.utils.filter('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'acl audit apparmor
> ldconfig pam pni-names selinux smack polkit seccomp', d)} \
>      ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'minidebuginfo',
> 'coredump elfutils', '', d)} \
>      ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'wifi', 'rfkill', '',
> d)} \
>      ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'x11', 'xkbcommon', '',
> d)} \
>      ${@bb.utils.contains('DISTRO_FEATURES', 'sysvinit', 'sysvinit',
> 'link-udev-shared', d)} \
>      backlight \
>      binfmt \
> +    efi \
>      gshadow \
>      hibernate \
>      hostnamed \
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-10 10:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-04 16:29 [PATCH v3 00/11] systemd based initrd and modular kernel support Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] systemd: enable efi support by default Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-10 10:16   ` Adrian Freihofer [this message]
2025-04-10 11:12     ` [OE-core] " Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-10 11:45     ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 12:12       ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 17:44         ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-10 17:48           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 19:19             ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-11 10:56               ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 20:53         ` Adrian Freihofer
2025-04-11 10:38           ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 12:13       ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-10 12:54         ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 14:20           ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-10 14:38             ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 14:51               ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-10 15:16                 ` Ilias Apalodimas
2025-04-10 15:27                 ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-11  8:40   ` Mike Looijmans
2025-04-11 10:45     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-11 11:08       ` mike.looijmans
2025-04-14 16:28         ` Adrian Freihofer
2025-04-15  9:51           ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-15 10:39             ` Jose Quaresma
2025-04-15 16:20             ` Peter Kjellerstedt
2025-04-16  6:08               ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-16  9:07                 ` Koen Kooi
2025-04-16 10:10                 ` Adrian Freihofer
2025-04-16 12:54                 ` Peter Kjellerstedt
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 02/11] uki.bbclass: drop serial console from kernel command line Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 03/11] kernel.bbclass: add kernel-initrd-modules meta package Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-08  3:42   ` [OE-core] " Bruce Ashfield
2025-04-10 12:42   ` Richard Purdie
2025-04-10 13:00     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-10 13:15       ` Bruce Ashfield
2025-04-11  7:48         ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-11 12:52           ` Bruce Ashfield
2025-04-11 13:12             ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-11 13:39               ` Bruce Ashfield
2025-04-11 13:45                 ` Richard Purdie
2025-04-22 10:18                 ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-23 12:48                   ` Bruce Ashfield
     [not found]     ` <1834F69070219745.7383@lists.openembedded.org>
2025-04-11  8:07       ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 04/11] core-image-initramfs-boot: add option to build systemd based initrd Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-07  6:01   ` [OE-core] " Koen Kooi
2025-04-07  6:12     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-07  8:58       ` Koen Kooi
2025-04-07  9:08         ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-10 12:45   ` Richard Purdie
2025-04-10 13:05     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 05/11] core-image-initramfs-boot: don't install RRECOMMENDS to reduce size Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-10 12:47   ` [OE-core] " Richard Purdie
2025-04-10 13:09     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 06/11] core-image-initramfs-boot: install kernel-initrd-modules by default Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 07/11] oeqa selftest uki.py: add aarch64/arm test with systemd based initrd Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 08/11] test_efi_plugin_plain_systemd-boot: don't set console Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] image_types_wic.bbclass: capture verbose wic output by default Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-14 20:43   ` [OE-core] " Trevor Woerner
2025-04-15  5:19     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-22 14:25       ` Alexander Kanavin
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 10/11] wic bootimg-efi.py: fail build if no binaries installed Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-14 20:51   ` [OE-core] " Trevor Woerner
2025-04-15  5:03     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-04 16:29 ` [PATCH v3 11/11] image_types_wic.bbclass: depend on grub-efi and systemd-boot on aarch64, systemd-boot on arm Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-14 20:48   ` [OE-core] " Trevor Woerner
2025-04-15  5:01     ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-07  7:53 ` [OE-core] [PATCH v3 00/11] systemd based initrd and modular kernel support Mathieu Dubois-Briand
2025-04-07  8:10   ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-07  8:51     ` Mathieu Dubois-Briand
2025-04-07  9:24       ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-07  9:52         ` Mathieu Dubois-Briand
2025-04-07 10:26           ` Mikko Rapeli
     [not found]           ` <18340261181AE46F.21691@lists.openembedded.org>
2025-04-07 11:13             ` Mikko Rapeli
2025-04-08 11:26               ` Mathieu Dubois-Briand
2025-04-08 11:39                 ` Mikko Rapeli

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