* [[PATCHv2] meta: Add pam to DISTRO_FEATURES if using systemd
@ 2026-07-07 9:02 Leon Anavi
2026-07-07 16:25 ` [OE-core] " Jörg Sommer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Leon Anavi @ 2026-07-07 9:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: openembedded-core; +Cc: Leon Anavi
Add pam to the list of DISTRO_FEATURES in init-manager-systemd.inc.
This way pam will available if variable VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager
has been set to systemd. Otherwise having systemd in conjunction
with wayland but without pam leads to a conflict with the
REQUIRED_DISTRO_FEATURES for weston related recipes.
This adjustment is required following these recent changes that
switched VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager to systemd by default and added
wayland to DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS which affects "nodistro":
- 159148f4de2595556fef6e8678578df83383857b
meta: Support opting out of any distro features
(Please note that this commit also extended DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS
with wayland and vulkan.)
- 0b4061c5d50261f826d0edb4b478d2d305274b7c
conf: Switch to systemd by default and simplify init manager selection
This fixes issues with test_machine_world when running the
yocto-check-layer script for BSP layers that include weston in the
dependency chain, for example meta-tegra:
ERROR: Required build target 'meta-world-pkgdata' has no buildable providers.
Missing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['meta-world-pkgdata', 'l4t-graphics-demos', 'weston']
The weston recipe has pam in REQUIRED_DISTRO_FEATURES if systemd is
enabled. Therefore, it makes sense to also add pam to the defaults
through DISTRO_FEATURES in init-manager-systemd.inc.
Signed-off-by: Leon Anavi <leon.anavi@konsulko.com>
---
meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc b/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
index 63fd225ca5..2e9eef24b5 100644
--- a/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
+++ b/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
# Use systemd for system initialization
-DISTRO_FEATURES:append = " systemd usrmerge"
+DISTRO_FEATURES:append = " systemd usrmerge pam"
VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager ??= "systemd"
VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_initscripts ??= ""
VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_login_manager ??= "shadow-base"
--
2.47.3
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* Re: [OE-core] [[PATCHv2] meta: Add pam to DISTRO_FEATURES if using systemd
2026-07-07 9:02 [[PATCHv2] meta: Add pam to DISTRO_FEATURES if using systemd Leon Anavi
@ 2026-07-07 16:25 ` Jörg Sommer
2026-07-08 6:37 ` Leon Anavi
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jörg Sommer @ 2026-07-07 16:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: leon.anavi; +Cc: openembedded-core
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Leon Anavi via lists.openembedded.org schrieb am Di 07. Jul, 12:02 (+0300):
> Add pam to the list of DISTRO_FEATURES in init-manager-systemd.inc.
> This way pam will available if variable VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager
> has been set to systemd. Otherwise having systemd in conjunction
> with wayland but without pam leads to a conflict with the
> REQUIRED_DISTRO_FEATURES for weston related recipes.
>
> This adjustment is required following these recent changes that
> switched VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager to systemd by default and added
> wayland to DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS which affects "nodistro":
>
> - 159148f4de2595556fef6e8678578df83383857b
> meta: Support opting out of any distro features
> (Please note that this commit also extended DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS
> with wayland and vulkan.)
>
> - 0b4061c5d50261f826d0edb4b478d2d305274b7c
> conf: Switch to systemd by default and simplify init manager selection
>
> This fixes issues with test_machine_world when running the
> yocto-check-layer script for BSP layers that include weston in the
> dependency chain, for example meta-tegra:
>
> ERROR: Required build target 'meta-world-pkgdata' has no buildable providers.
> Missing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['meta-world-pkgdata', 'l4t-graphics-demos', 'weston']
>
> The weston recipe has pam in REQUIRED_DISTRO_FEATURES if systemd is
> enabled. Therefore, it makes sense to also add pam to the defaults
> through DISTRO_FEATURES in init-manager-systemd.inc.
>
> Signed-off-by: Leon Anavi <leon.anavi@konsulko.com>
> ---
> meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc | 2 +-
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc b/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
> index 63fd225ca5..2e9eef24b5 100644
> --- a/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
> +++ b/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
> @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
> # Use systemd for system initialization
> -DISTRO_FEATURES:append = " systemd usrmerge"
> +DISTRO_FEATURES:append = " systemd usrmerge pam"
systemd and usrmerge are required features for systemd. But pam is optional
and should be in DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS to allow for easy opt-out.
On the other side: Is pam so much common that it should be enabled by
default? Why not leave this decision to the distro or the local.conf when
the user selects the content of the image?
Kind regards, Jörg
> VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager ??= "systemd"
> VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_initscripts ??= ""
> VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_login_manager ??= "shadow-base"
> --
> 2.47.3
>
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* Re: [OE-core] [[PATCHv2] meta: Add pam to DISTRO_FEATURES if using systemd
2026-07-07 16:25 ` [OE-core] " Jörg Sommer
@ 2026-07-08 6:37 ` Leon Anavi
2026-07-08 8:52 ` Jörg Sommer
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Leon Anavi @ 2026-07-08 6:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jörg Sommer; +Cc: openembedded-core
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Hi Jörg,
On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 7:25 PM Jörg Sommer <joerg.sommer@navimatix.de>
wrote:
> Leon Anavi via lists.openembedded.org schrieb am Di 07. Jul, 12:02
> (+0300):
> > Add pam to the list of DISTRO_FEATURES in init-manager-systemd.inc.
> > This way pam will available if variable VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager
> > has been set to systemd. Otherwise having systemd in conjunction
> > with wayland but without pam leads to a conflict with the
> > REQUIRED_DISTRO_FEATURES for weston related recipes.
> >
> > This adjustment is required following these recent changes that
> > switched VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager to systemd by default and added
> > wayland to DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS which affects "nodistro":
> >
> > - 159148f4de2595556fef6e8678578df83383857b
> > meta: Support opting out of any distro features
> > (Please note that this commit also extended DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS
> > with wayland and vulkan.)
> >
> > - 0b4061c5d50261f826d0edb4b478d2d305274b7c
> > conf: Switch to systemd by default and simplify init manager selection
> >
> > This fixes issues with test_machine_world when running the
> > yocto-check-layer script for BSP layers that include weston in the
> > dependency chain, for example meta-tegra:
> >
> > ERROR: Required build target 'meta-world-pkgdata' has no buildable
> providers.
> > Missing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['meta-world-pkgdata',
> 'l4t-graphics-demos', 'weston']
> >
> > The weston recipe has pam in REQUIRED_DISTRO_FEATURES if systemd is
> > enabled. Therefore, it makes sense to also add pam to the defaults
> > through DISTRO_FEATURES in init-manager-systemd.inc.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Leon Anavi <leon.anavi@konsulko.com>
> > ---
> > meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc | 2 +-
> > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
> b/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
> > index 63fd225ca5..2e9eef24b5 100644
> > --- a/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
> > +++ b/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
> > @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
> > # Use systemd for system initialization
> > -DISTRO_FEATURES:append = " systemd usrmerge"
> > +DISTRO_FEATURES:append = " systemd usrmerge pam"
>
> systemd and usrmerge are required features for systemd. But pam is optional
> and should be in DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS to allow for easy opt-out.
>
>
Thank you for your feedback but please note that version 1 of my patch was
adding pam to DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS if systemd was enabled. Here is a
link to v1 of my patch:
https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/240113
Following the code review and feedback provided by Paul Barker I modified
the patch and submitted version 2. For your convenience, here is a link to
Paul's email with his recommendation that init-manager-systemd.inc is the
better place for this:
https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/240233
> On the other side: Is pam so much common that it should be enabled by
> default?
The purpose of my proposed patch is to fix the behavior of the
yocto-check-layer script when running it with DISTRO="nodistro" for layers
that depend on recipes requiring pam, such as weston. Since the Wrynose
release and the previously mentioned git commits by Richard and Paul,
openembedded-core has switched to systemd by default and extended
DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS with wayland and vulkan. Because wayland is now
enabled by default, in certain recipes the PACKAGECONFIG option for wayland
is enabled and drags weston, causing the test_machine_world test from the
yocto-check-layer script to fail for meta-world-pkgdata if pam is not also
enabled. For example, this occurs with the l4t-graphics-demos recipe from
meta-tegra:
https://github.com/OE4T/meta-tegra/blob/master/recipes-graphics/l4t-graphics-demos/l4t-graphics-demos_39.2.0.bb#L23
> Why not leave this decision to the distro or the local.conf when
> the user selects the content of the image?
>
Based on my experience with meta-tegra, these changes introduce kind of a
breaking change when running yocto-check-layer with the default
DISTRO="nodistro" on layers that have recipes depending on weston. My
understanding of yocto-check-layer is that it assesses how compatible a
layer is with the Yocto Project without modifications to local.conf
therefore I don't want to add pam to DISTRO_FEATURES locally in it.
Probably there are other layers out there that are affected in the same way
by new defaults in DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS and systemd. For my particular
use case, I run yocto-check-layer for meta-tegra as follows:
source openembedded-core/oe-init-build-env build
yocto-check-layer --no-auto-dependency ../meta-tegra --machines
jetson-orin-nano-devkit-nvme
Best regards, Leon
>
>
> Kind regards, Jörg
>
> > VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager ??= "systemd"
> > VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_initscripts ??= ""
> > VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_login_manager ??= "shadow-base"
> > --
> > 2.47.3
> >
>
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* Re: [OE-core] [[PATCHv2] meta: Add pam to DISTRO_FEATURES if using systemd
2026-07-08 6:37 ` Leon Anavi
@ 2026-07-08 8:52 ` Jörg Sommer
2026-07-08 14:43 ` Leon Anavi
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jörg Sommer @ 2026-07-08 8:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Leon Anavi; +Cc: openembedded-core, Paul Barker
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Leon Anavi schrieb am Mi 08. Jul, 09:37 (+0300):
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 7:25 PM Jörg Sommer <joerg.sommer@navimatix.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Leon Anavi via lists.openembedded.org schrieb am Di 07. Jul, 12:02
> > (+0300):
> > > Add pam to the list of DISTRO_FEATURES in init-manager-systemd.inc.
> > > This way pam will available if variable VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager
> > > has been set to systemd. Otherwise having systemd in conjunction
> > > with wayland but without pam leads to a conflict with the
> > > REQUIRED_DISTRO_FEATURES for weston related recipes.
> > >
> > > This adjustment is required following these recent changes that
> > > switched VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager to systemd by default and added
> > > wayland to DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS which affects "nodistro":
> > >
> > > - 159148f4de2595556fef6e8678578df83383857b
> > > meta: Support opting out of any distro features
> > > (Please note that this commit also extended DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS
> > > with wayland and vulkan.)
> > >
> > > - 0b4061c5d50261f826d0edb4b478d2d305274b7c
> > > conf: Switch to systemd by default and simplify init manager selection
> > >
> > > This fixes issues with test_machine_world when running the
> > > yocto-check-layer script for BSP layers that include weston in the
> > > dependency chain, for example meta-tegra:
> > >
> > > ERROR: Required build target 'meta-world-pkgdata' has no buildable
> > providers.
> > > Missing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['meta-world-pkgdata',
> > 'l4t-graphics-demos', 'weston']
> > >
> > > The weston recipe has pam in REQUIRED_DISTRO_FEATURES if systemd is
> > > enabled. Therefore, it makes sense to also add pam to the defaults
> > > through DISTRO_FEATURES in init-manager-systemd.inc.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Leon Anavi <leon.anavi@konsulko.com>
> > > ---
> > > meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc | 2 +-
> > > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
> > b/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
> > > index 63fd225ca5..2e9eef24b5 100644
> > > --- a/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
> > > +++ b/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
> > > @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
> > > # Use systemd for system initialization
> > > -DISTRO_FEATURES:append = " systemd usrmerge"
> > > +DISTRO_FEATURES:append = " systemd usrmerge pam"
> >
> > systemd and usrmerge are required features for systemd. But pam is optional
> > and should be in DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS to allow for easy opt-out.
> >
> >
> Thank you for your feedback but please note that version 1 of my patch was
> adding pam to DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS if systemd was enabled. Here is a
> link to v1 of my patch:
> https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/240113
Thanks for the link. For an unknown reason I do not get all mails from the
list. I suspect it's an outlook feature.
> Following the code review and feedback provided by Paul Barker I modified
> the patch and submitted version 2. For your convenience, here is a link to
> Paul's email with his recommendation that init-manager-systemd.inc is the
> better place for this:
> https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/240233
Yes, I think so too. But as Paul said: “I'm not sure we want to enable pam
for everyone using systemd, there may be many systemd users who don't use
weston.” And I am one of these users who do not want pam.
My idea was to add to init-manager-systemd.inc this line:
DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS += "pam"
> > On the other side: Is pam so much common that it should be enabled by
> > default?
>
>
> The purpose of my proposed patch is to fix the behavior of the
> yocto-check-layer script when running it with DISTRO="nodistro" for layers
> that depend on recipes requiring pam, such as weston. Since the Wrynose
> release and the previously mentioned git commits by Richard and Paul,
> openembedded-core has switched to systemd by default and extended
> DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS with wayland and vulkan. Because wayland is now
> enabled by default,
As far as I can see, wayland was enabled by default before Paul's “meta:
Support opting out of any distro features”
159148f4de2595556fef6e8678578df83383857b. The real breaking change was the
default init-manager of systemd.
Hence, the setup must have been broken before, if someone choose systemd.
I would add “pam” to DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS in init-manager-systemd.inc,
because this sets the required features to build all recipes, but users can
opt-out.
Maybe it's worth to mention this in the release notes that more people
become aware of they have to set `DISTRO_FEATURES_OPTED_OUT += "pam"`.
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* Re: [OE-core] [[PATCHv2] meta: Add pam to DISTRO_FEATURES if using systemd
2026-07-08 8:52 ` Jörg Sommer
@ 2026-07-08 14:43 ` Leon Anavi
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From: Leon Anavi @ 2026-07-08 14:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jörg Sommer; +Cc: openembedded-core, Paul Barker
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Hi Jörg,
On 7/8/26 11:52, Jörg Sommer wrote:
> Leon Anavi schrieb am Mi 08. Jul, 09:37 (+0300):
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2026 at 7:25 PM Jörg Sommer<joerg.sommer@navimatix.de>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Leon Anavi via lists.openembedded.org schrieb am Di 07. Jul, 12:02
>>> (+0300):
>>>> Add pam to the list of DISTRO_FEATURES in init-manager-systemd.inc.
>>>> This way pam will available if variable VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager
>>>> has been set to systemd. Otherwise having systemd in conjunction
>>>> with wayland but without pam leads to a conflict with the
>>>> REQUIRED_DISTRO_FEATURES for weston related recipes.
>>>>
>>>> This adjustment is required following these recent changes that
>>>> switched VIRTUAL-RUNTIME_init_manager to systemd by default and added
>>>> wayland to DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS which affects "nodistro":
>>>>
>>>> - 159148f4de2595556fef6e8678578df83383857b
>>>> meta: Support opting out of any distro features
>>>> (Please note that this commit also extended DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS
>>>> with wayland and vulkan.)
>>>>
>>>> - 0b4061c5d50261f826d0edb4b478d2d305274b7c
>>>> conf: Switch to systemd by default and simplify init manager selection
>>>>
>>>> This fixes issues with test_machine_world when running the
>>>> yocto-check-layer script for BSP layers that include weston in the
>>>> dependency chain, for example meta-tegra:
>>>>
>>>> ERROR: Required build target 'meta-world-pkgdata' has no buildable
>>> providers.
>>>> Missing or unbuildable dependency chain was: ['meta-world-pkgdata',
>>> 'l4t-graphics-demos', 'weston']
>>>> The weston recipe has pam in REQUIRED_DISTRO_FEATURES if systemd is
>>>> enabled. Therefore, it makes sense to also add pam to the defaults
>>>> through DISTRO_FEATURES in init-manager-systemd.inc.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Leon Anavi<leon.anavi@konsulko.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc | 2 +-
>>>> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
>>> b/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
>>>> index 63fd225ca5..2e9eef24b5 100644
>>>> --- a/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
>>>> +++ b/meta/conf/distro/include/init-manager-systemd.inc
>>>> @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
>>>> # Use systemd for system initialization
>>>> -DISTRO_FEATURES:append = " systemd usrmerge"
>>>> +DISTRO_FEATURES:append = " systemd usrmerge pam"
>>> systemd and usrmerge are required features for systemd. But pam is optional
>>> and should be in DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS to allow for easy opt-out.
>>>
>>>
>> Thank you for your feedback but please note that version 1 of my patch was
>> adding pam to DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS if systemd was enabled. Here is a
>> link to v1 of my patch:
>> https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/240113
> Thanks for the link. For an unknown reason I do not get all mails from the
> list. I suspect it's an outlook feature.
>
>> Following the code review and feedback provided by Paul Barker I modified
>> the patch and submitted version 2. For your convenience, here is a link to
>> Paul's email with his recommendation that init-manager-systemd.inc is the
>> better place for this:
>> https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/240233
> Yes, I think so too. But as Paul said: “I'm not sure we want to enable pam
> for everyone using systemd, there may be many systemd users who don't use
> weston.” And I am one of these users who do not want pam.
>
> My idea was to add to init-manager-systemd.inc this line:
>
> DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS += "pam"
OK, thank you for clarifying it. Sorry, I didn't understand what you had
in mind in your initial email. Following your suggestion I did it but
with DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS:append for consistency how
init-manager-systemd.inc handles DISTRO_FEATURES. It works fine for my
use case with yocto-check-layer script. I have just sent v3 of the patch.
>
>>> On the other side: Is pam so much common that it should be enabled by
>>> default?
>>
>> The purpose of my proposed patch is to fix the behavior of the
>> yocto-check-layer script when running it with DISTRO="nodistro" for layers
>> that depend on recipes requiring pam, such as weston. Since the Wrynose
>> release and the previously mentioned git commits by Richard and Paul,
>> openembedded-core has switched to systemd by default and extended
>> DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS with wayland and vulkan. Because wayland is now
>> enabled by default,
> As far as I can see, wayland was enabled by default before Paul's “meta:
> Support opting out of any distro features”
> 159148f4de2595556fef6e8678578df83383857b. The real breaking change was the
> default init-manager of systemd.
Yes, as mentioned in the git commit message of my patch, it is a
conjunction between git commits 159148f4de2595556fef6e8678578df83383857b
and 0b4061c5d50261f826d0edb4b478d2d305274b7c with the primary impact
from latter because of the switching to systemd by default. Best
regards, Leon
>
> Hence, the setup must have been broken before, if someone choose systemd.
>
> I would add “pam” to DISTRO_FEATURES_DEFAULTS in init-manager-systemd.inc,
> because this sets the required features to build all recipes, but users can
> opt-out.
>
> Maybe it's worth to mention this in the release notes that more people
> become aware of they have to set `DISTRO_FEATURES_OPTED_OUT += "pam"`.
>
>
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