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From: Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
Subject: Re: [meta-oe][PATCH V2 6/7] blacklist.bbclass: Move to meta-angstrom
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 09:43:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jvnsim$5e9$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABcZANnEmASgH3wrk7TZOpe3BaK+o6oRPyvAo6SadtybgqDWJg@mail.gmail.com>

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Op 05-08-12 23:37, Chris Larson schreef:
> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 4:41 AM, Koen Kooi <koen@dominion.thruhere.net>
> wrote:
>>> doent sound logical to me. Would it be acceptable if angstrom used
>>> this feature from OE-Core as well ? then it will remove the usecase 
>>> completely.
>> 
>> I keep waiting on the person that pushed it to oe-core to provide
>> patches for distro layers using the old functionality, see above.
> 
> This doesn't make much sense to me. It's impossible to know what all 
> layers use a given piece of functionality, particularly ones that aren't
> published in public places, so expecting every person changing something
> in oe-core will go and submit changes to every layer that exists is
> entirely unreasonable. If you maintain a layer, it's your responsibility
> to make sure your layer retains compatibility with upstream. It's not
> upstream's responsibility to make sure everyone using their functionality
> stays compatible.

In this specific instance the class was moved from meta-angstrom to meta-oe
as is and then moved to oe-core and changed to make it "less angstrom
specific".
I don't see how you can  argue that the person making that change was/is
unaware of the existence of the angstrom layer. Or of the SHR usage of that
class.

But yes, some people don't know that layers exist, there was a nice example
last week when I asked if someone checked *all* the layers out there on the
impact of the patch in question and the response was "Yes, I checked both
oe-core and meta-intel".

I agree with your generic point that changes in oe-core can not and should
not require updating of all layers by the submitter. On the other hand: if
you know you're moving functionality between layers while breaking it in the
process it is anti-social to not fix up the user(s) of that functionality
that you know of.

This is similar to asking a oe-core patch to be held back for a few days
because a number of layers have a matching bbappend that will need updating.
Especially if those layers have maintainers where the patch review latency
is measured in days instead of hours (e.g. me with non-denzil based stuff).
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-06  7:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-31 18:56 [meta-systemd][PATCH V2 1/7] systemd: Upgrade to 187 Khem Raj
2012-07-31 18:56 ` [meta-systemd][PATCH V2 2/7] busybox: stopping systemd-kmsg-syslogd is not needed Khem Raj
2012-07-31 18:56 ` [meta-systemd][PATCH V2 3/7] busybox-syslog.service.in: Create alias for syslog.service Khem Raj
2012-07-31 18:56 ` [meta-systemd][PATCH V2 4/7] systemd: Use cross cpp Khem Raj
2012-07-31 18:56 ` [meta-oe][PATCH V2 5/7] testlab.bbclass: Delete Khem Raj
2012-07-31 18:56 ` [meta-oe][PATCH V2 6/7] blacklist.bbclass: Move to meta-angstrom Khem Raj
2012-07-31 19:07   ` Koen Kooi
2012-07-31 19:24     ` Chris Larson
2012-07-31 19:43     ` Martin Jansa
2012-07-31 20:46       ` Khem Raj
2012-08-04 20:36   ` Koen Kooi
2012-08-04 20:47     ` Khem Raj
2012-08-04 21:56       ` Philip Balister
2012-08-05 11:41       ` Koen Kooi
2012-08-05 19:44         ` Khem Raj
2012-08-05 21:37         ` Chris Larson
2012-08-05 22:06           ` Khem Raj
2012-08-06  7:43           ` Koen Kooi [this message]
2012-08-07  2:38             ` Khem Raj
2012-07-31 18:56 ` [meta-oe][PATCH V2 7/7] kernel.bbclass: Rename to machine_kernel_pr.bbclass which provides added functionality Khem Raj
2012-08-01 17:38   ` Otavio Salvador
2012-08-01 22:31     ` Khem Raj
2012-08-01 15:11 ` [meta-systemd][PATCH V2 1/7] systemd: Upgrade to 187 Koen Kooi
2012-08-01 22:56   ` Khem Raj
2012-08-02  8:11     ` Paul Eggleton
2012-08-03 10:32       ` Khem Raj
2012-08-03 12:38         ` Koen Kooi
2012-08-03 14:41           ` Khem Raj
2012-08-03 15:36             ` Koen Kooi
2012-08-03 18:39               ` Khem Raj
2012-08-03 18:42                 ` Martin Jansa
2012-08-03 19:08                 ` Koen Kooi
2012-08-04 20:10               ` Khem Raj
2012-08-04 20:35                 ` Koen Kooi
2012-08-04 20:50                   ` Khem Raj
2012-08-05 11:42                     ` Koen Kooi
2012-08-05 11:53                       ` Philip Balister
2012-08-05 19:40                         ` Khem Raj

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