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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
Cc: rcu <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rushikesh S Kadam <rushikesh.s.kadam@intel.com>,
	Neeraj upadhyay <neeraj.iitr10@gmail.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1 00/14] Implement call_rcu_lazy() and miscellaneous fixes
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 14:03:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yn0TuehXj6VoWG0A@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+KHdyVGCC2-S8waURWL_cwjdv8EyeUwnLFNVYHn+h7TrteP6g@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 03:56:37PM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> Never mind. I port it into 5.10

Oh, this is on mainline. Sorry about that. If you want I have a tree here for
5.10 , although that does not have the kfree changes, everything else is
ditto.
https://github.com/joelagnel/linux-kernel/tree/rcu-nocb-4

thanks,

 - Joel



> 
> On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 3:09 PM Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, Joel!
> >
> > Which kernel version have you used for this series?
> >
> > --
> > Uladzislau Rezki
> >
> > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 5:18 AM Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 11:04 PM Joel Fernandes (Google)
> > > <joel@joelfernandes.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello!
> > > > Please find the proof of concept version of call_rcu_lazy() attached. This
> > > > gives a lot of savings when the CPUs are relatively idle. Huge thanks to
> > > > Rushikesh Kadam from Intel for investigating it with me.
> > > >
> > > > Some numbers below:
> > > >
> > > > Following are power savings we see on top of RCU_NOCB_CPU on an Intel platform.
> > > > The observation is that due to a 'trickle down' effect of RCU callbacks, the
> > > > system is very lightly loaded but constantly running few RCU callbacks very
> > > > often. This confuses the power management hardware that the system is active,
> > > > when it is in fact idle.
> > > >
> > > > For example, when ChromeOS screen is off and user is not doing anything on the
> > > > system, we can see big power savings.
> > > > Before:
> > > > Pk%pc10 = 72.13
> > > > PkgWatt = 0.58
> > > > CorWatt = 0.04
> > > >
> > > > After:
> > > > Pk%pc10 = 81.28
> > > > PkgWatt = 0.41
> > > > CorWatt = 0.03
> > > >
> > > > Further, when ChromeOS screen is ON but system is idle or lightly loaded, we
> > > > can see that the display pipeline is constantly doing RCU callback queuing due
> > > > to open/close of file descriptors associated with graphics buffers. This is
> > > > attributed to the file_free_rcu() path which this patch series also touches.
> > > >
> > > > This patch series adds a simple but effective, and lockless implementation of
> > > > RCU callback batching. On memory pressure, timeout or queue growing too big, we
> > > > initiate a flush of one or more per-CPU lists.
> > > >
> > > > Similar results can be achieved by increasing jiffies_till_first_fqs, however
> > > > that also has the effect of slowing down RCU. Especially I saw huge slow down
> > > > of function graph tracer when increasing that.
> > > >
> > > > One drawback of this series is, if another frequent RCU callback creeps up in
> > > > the future, that's not lazy, then that will again hurt the power. However, I
> > > > believe identifying and fixing those is a more reasonable approach than slowing
> > > > RCU down for the whole system.
> > > >
> > > > NOTE: Add debug patch is added in the series toggle /proc/sys/kernel/rcu_lazy
> > > > at runtime to turn it on or off globally. It is default to on. Further, please
> > > > use the sysctls in lazy.c for further tuning of parameters that effect the
> > > > flushing.
> > > >
> > > > Disclaimer 1: Don't boot your personal system on it yet anticipating power
> > > > savings, as TREE07 still causes RCU stalls and I am looking more into that, but
> > > > I believe this series should be good for general testing.
> > > >
> > > > Disclaimer 2: I have intentionally not CC'd other subsystem maintainers (like
> > > > net, fs) to keep noise low and will CC them in the future after 1 or 2 rounds
> > > > of review and agreements.
> > >
> > > I did forget to add Disclaimer 3, that this breaks rcu_barrier() and
> > > support for that definitely needs work.
> > >
> > > thanks,
> > >
> > >  - Joel
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Uladzislau Rezki
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Uladzislau Rezki

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-12 14:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-12  3:04 [RFC v1 00/14] Implement call_rcu_lazy() and miscellaneous fixes Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-05-12  3:04 ` [RFC v1 01/14] rcu: Add a lock-less lazy RCU implementation Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-05-12 23:56   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-14 15:08     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-14 16:34       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-27 23:12         ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-28 17:57           ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-30 14:48             ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-30 16:42               ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-31  2:12                 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-31  4:26                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-31 16:11                     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-31 16:45                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-31 18:51                         ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-31 19:25                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-31 21:29                             ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-31 22:44                               ` Joel Fernandes
2022-06-01 14:24     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-06-01 16:17       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-01 19:09       ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-17  9:07   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-05-30 14:54     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-06-01 14:12       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2022-06-01 19:10         ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-12  3:04 ` [RFC v1 02/14] workqueue: Add a lazy version of queue_rcu_work() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-05-12 23:58   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-14 14:44     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-12  3:04 ` [RFC v1 03/14] block/blk-ioc: Move call_rcu() to call_rcu_lazy() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-05-13  0:00   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-12  3:04 ` [RFC v1 04/14] cred: " Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-05-13  0:02   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-14 14:41     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-12  3:04 ` [RFC v1 05/14] fs: Move call_rcu() to call_rcu_lazy() in some paths Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-05-13  0:07   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-14 14:40     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-12  3:04 ` [RFC v1 06/14] kernel: Move various core kernel usages to call_rcu_lazy() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-05-12  3:04 ` [RFC v1 07/14] security: Move call_rcu() " Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-05-12  3:04 ` [RFC v1 08/14] net/core: " Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-05-12  3:04 ` [RFC v1 09/14] lib: " Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-05-12  3:04 ` [RFC v1 10/14] kfree/rcu: Queue RCU work via queue_rcu_work_lazy() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-05-13  0:12   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-13 14:55     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-05-14 14:33       ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-14 19:10         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-05-12  3:04 ` [RFC v1 11/14] i915: Move call_rcu() to call_rcu_lazy() Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-05-12  3:04 ` [RFC v1 12/14] rcu/kfree: remove useless monitor_todo flag Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-05-13 14:53   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-05-14 14:35     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-14 19:48       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-05-12  3:04 ` [RFC v1 13/14] rcu/kfree: Fix kfree_rcu_shrink_count() return value Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-05-13 14:54   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-05-14 14:34     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-12  3:04 ` [RFC v1 14/14] DEBUG: Toggle rcu_lazy and tune at runtime Joel Fernandes (Google)
2022-05-13  0:16   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-14 14:38     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-14 16:21       ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-12  3:17 ` [RFC v1 00/14] Implement call_rcu_lazy() and miscellaneous fixes Joel Fernandes
2022-05-12 13:09   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-05-12 13:56     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-05-12 14:03       ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2022-05-12 14:37         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-05-12 16:09           ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-12 16:32             ` Uladzislau Rezki
     [not found]               ` <Yn5e7w8NWzThUARb@pc638.lan>
2022-05-13 14:51                 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-13 15:43                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-05-14 14:25                     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-14 19:01                       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2022-08-09  2:25                       ` Joel Fernandes
2022-05-13  0:23   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-05-13 14:45     ` Joel Fernandes
2022-06-13 18:53 ` Joel Fernandes
2022-06-13 22:48   ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-06-16 16:26     ` Joel Fernandes

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