* [PATCH] drm/amd/display: Restore 5s vbl offdelay for NV3x+ DGPUs
@ 2026-04-22 16:29 sunpeng.li
2026-04-22 16:42 ` Mario Limonciello
2026-04-22 16:56 ` Alex Deucher
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: sunpeng.li @ 2026-04-22 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: amd-gfx
Cc: Harry.Wentland, Aurabindo.Pillai, mario.limonciello, wiagn233,
sysdadmin, stable, Leo Li
From: Leo Li <sunpeng.li@amd.com>
[Why]
Rapid vblank off is causing flip-done timeouts for NV3x and newer
family of GPUs that support more idle optimization features.
A proper fix requires further investigation. In lieu of it, let's
workaround it for now.
[How]
For NV3x and newer family of DGPUs, restore the old 5s vblank off timer.
Fixes: 9b47278cec98 ("drm/amd/display: temp w/a for dGPU to enter idle optimizations")
Link: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/3787
Link: https://lore.kernel.org/amd-gfx/20260217191632.1243826-1-sysdadmin@m1k.cloud/
Signed-off-by: Leo Li <sunpeng.li@amd.com>
Tested-by: Michele Palazzi <sysdadmin@m1k.cloud>
---
.../gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c | 18 +++++++++++++++---
1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c
index 3fa4dbda4517c..ce5063928413c 100644
--- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c
+++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c
@@ -9511,9 +9511,21 @@ static void manage_dm_interrupts(struct amdgpu_device *adev,
if (acrtc_state) {
timing = &acrtc_state->stream->timing;
- if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) <
- IP_VERSION(3, 5, 0) ||
- !(adev->flags & AMD_IS_APU)) {
+ if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) >=
+ IP_VERSION(3, 2, 0) &&
+ !(adev->flags & AMD_IS_APU)) {
+ /*
+ * DGPUs NV3x and newer that support idle optimizations
+ * experience intermittent flip-done timeouts on cursor
+ * updates. Restore 5s offdelay behavior for now.
+ *
+ * Discussion on the issue:
+ * https://lore.kernel.org/amd-gfx/20260217191632.1243826-1-sysdadmin@m1k.cloud/
+ */
+ config.offdelay_ms = 5000;
+ config.disable_immediate = false;
+ } else if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) <
+ IP_VERSION(3, 5, 0)) {
/*
* Older HW and DGPU have issues with instant off;
* use a 2 frame offdelay.
--
2.53.0
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* Re: [PATCH] drm/amd/display: Restore 5s vbl offdelay for NV3x+ DGPUs
2026-04-22 16:29 [PATCH] drm/amd/display: Restore 5s vbl offdelay for NV3x+ DGPUs sunpeng.li
@ 2026-04-22 16:42 ` Mario Limonciello
2026-04-22 16:56 ` Alex Deucher
1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mario Limonciello @ 2026-04-22 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: sunpeng.li, amd-gfx
Cc: Harry.Wentland, Aurabindo.Pillai, wiagn233, sysdadmin, stable
On 4/22/26 11:29, sunpeng.li@amd.com wrote:
> From: Leo Li <sunpeng.li@amd.com>
>
> [Why]
>
> Rapid vblank off is causing flip-done timeouts for NV3x and newer
> family of GPUs that support more idle optimization features.
>
> A proper fix requires further investigation. In lieu of it, let's
> workaround it for now.
>
> [How]
>
> For NV3x and newer family of DGPUs, restore the old 5s vblank off timer.
Why would it be dGPU only though? I thought we have various reports of
flip_done timeouts for APUs too.
Is your theory they're different root causes?
>
> Fixes: 9b47278cec98 ("drm/amd/display: temp w/a for dGPU to enter idle optimizations")
> Link: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/3787
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/amd-gfx/20260217191632.1243826-1-sysdadmin@m1k.cloud/
> Signed-off-by: Leo Li <sunpeng.li@amd.com>
> Tested-by: Michele Palazzi <sysdadmin@m1k.cloud>
> ---
> .../gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c | 18 +++++++++++++++---
> 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c
> index 3fa4dbda4517c..ce5063928413c 100644
> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c
> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c
> @@ -9511,9 +9511,21 @@ static void manage_dm_interrupts(struct amdgpu_device *adev,
> if (acrtc_state) {
> timing = &acrtc_state->stream->timing;
>
> - if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) <
> - IP_VERSION(3, 5, 0) ||
> - !(adev->flags & AMD_IS_APU)) {
> + if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) >=
> + IP_VERSION(3, 2, 0) &&
> + !(adev->flags & AMD_IS_APU)) {
> + /*
> + * DGPUs NV3x and newer that support idle optimizations
> + * experience intermittent flip-done timeouts on cursor
> + * updates. Restore 5s offdelay behavior for now.
> + *
> + * Discussion on the issue:
> + * https://lore.kernel.org/amd-gfx/20260217191632.1243826-1-sysdadmin@m1k.cloud/
> + */
> + config.offdelay_ms = 5000;
> + config.disable_immediate = false;
> + } else if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) <
> + IP_VERSION(3, 5, 0)) {
> /*
> * Older HW and DGPU have issues with instant off;
> * use a 2 frame offdelay.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] drm/amd/display: Restore 5s vbl offdelay for NV3x+ DGPUs
2026-04-22 16:29 [PATCH] drm/amd/display: Restore 5s vbl offdelay for NV3x+ DGPUs sunpeng.li
2026-04-22 16:42 ` Mario Limonciello
@ 2026-04-22 16:56 ` Alex Deucher
2026-04-22 17:19 ` Leo Li
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Alex Deucher @ 2026-04-22 16:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: sunpeng.li
Cc: amd-gfx, Harry.Wentland, Aurabindo.Pillai, mario.limonciello,
wiagn233, sysdadmin, stable
On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 12:49 PM <sunpeng.li@amd.com> wrote:
>
> From: Leo Li <sunpeng.li@amd.com>
>
> [Why]
>
> Rapid vblank off is causing flip-done timeouts for NV3x and newer
> family of GPUs that support more idle optimization features.
>
> A proper fix requires further investigation. In lieu of it, let's
> workaround it for now.
>
> [How]
>
> For NV3x and newer family of DGPUs, restore the old 5s vblank off timer.
>
> Fixes: 9b47278cec98 ("drm/amd/display: temp w/a for dGPU to enter idle optimizations")
> Link: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/3787
> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/amd-gfx/20260217191632.1243826-1-sysdadmin@m1k.cloud/
> Signed-off-by: Leo Li <sunpeng.li@amd.com>
> Tested-by: Michele Palazzi <sysdadmin@m1k.cloud>
> ---
> .../gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c | 18 +++++++++++++++---
> 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c
> index 3fa4dbda4517c..ce5063928413c 100644
> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c
> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c
> @@ -9511,9 +9511,21 @@ static void manage_dm_interrupts(struct amdgpu_device *adev,
> if (acrtc_state) {
> timing = &acrtc_state->stream->timing;
>
> - if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) <
> - IP_VERSION(3, 5, 0) ||
> - !(adev->flags & AMD_IS_APU)) {
> + if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) >=
> + IP_VERSION(3, 2, 0) &&
> + !(adev->flags & AMD_IS_APU)) {
Why only dGPUs? Seems like this is reported as least as often on APUs
if not more.
Alex
> + /*
> + * DGPUs NV3x and newer that support idle optimizations
> + * experience intermittent flip-done timeouts on cursor
> + * updates. Restore 5s offdelay behavior for now.
> + *
> + * Discussion on the issue:
> + * https://lore.kernel.org/amd-gfx/20260217191632.1243826-1-sysdadmin@m1k.cloud/
> + */
> + config.offdelay_ms = 5000;
> + config.disable_immediate = false;
> + } else if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) <
> + IP_VERSION(3, 5, 0)) {
> /*
> * Older HW and DGPU have issues with instant off;
> * use a 2 frame offdelay.
> --
> 2.53.0
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] drm/amd/display: Restore 5s vbl offdelay for NV3x+ DGPUs
2026-04-22 16:56 ` Alex Deucher
@ 2026-04-22 17:19 ` Leo Li
2026-04-22 17:42 ` Mario Limonciello
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Leo Li @ 2026-04-22 17:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alex Deucher
Cc: amd-gfx, Harry.Wentland, Aurabindo.Pillai, mario.limonciello,
wiagn233, sysdadmin, stable
On 2026-04-22 12:56, Alex Deucher wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 12:49 PM <sunpeng.li@amd.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Leo Li <sunpeng.li@amd.com>
>>
>> [Why]
>>
>> Rapid vblank off is causing flip-done timeouts for NV3x and newer
>> family of GPUs that support more idle optimization features.
>>
>> A proper fix requires further investigation. In lieu of it, let's
>> workaround it for now.
>>
>> [How]
>>
>> For NV3x and newer family of DGPUs, restore the old 5s vblank off timer.
>>
>> Fixes: 9b47278cec98 ("drm/amd/display: temp w/a for dGPU to enter idle optimizations")
>> Link: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/3787
>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/amd-gfx/20260217191632.1243826-1-sysdadmin@m1k.cloud/
>> Signed-off-by: Leo Li <sunpeng.li@amd.com>
>> Tested-by: Michele Palazzi <sysdadmin@m1k.cloud>
>> ---
>> .../gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c | 18 +++++++++++++++---
>> 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c
>> index 3fa4dbda4517c..ce5063928413c 100644
>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c
>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c
>> @@ -9511,9 +9511,21 @@ static void manage_dm_interrupts(struct amdgpu_device *adev,
>> if (acrtc_state) {
>> timing = &acrtc_state->stream->timing;
>>
>> - if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) <
>> - IP_VERSION(3, 5, 0) ||
>> - !(adev->flags & AMD_IS_APU)) {
>> + if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) >=
>> + IP_VERSION(3, 2, 0) &&
>> + !(adev->flags & AMD_IS_APU)) {
>
> Why only dGPUs? Seems like this is reported as least as often on APUs
> if not more.
>
> Alex
Hi Alex, Mario,
At least in the case of the few reporters I was working with, this specific
flip-done timeout was reproduced on NV3x and 4x systems running multi-display.
The reporter for the linked gitlab issue was also running a nv3.
The cause of these flip timeouts can be varied. The signature for this
particular issue was OTG failing to fire an interrupt that is expected to
deliver the flip-done event. I'm not aware of this particular signature in APUs
-- at least none on my radar. Do bring it to my attention if you're aware of
them.
Thanks,
Leo
>
>> + /*
>> + * DGPUs NV3x and newer that support idle optimizations
>> + * experience intermittent flip-done timeouts on cursor
>> + * updates. Restore 5s offdelay behavior for now.
>> + *
>> + * Discussion on the issue:
>> + * https://lore.kernel.org/amd-gfx/20260217191632.1243826-1-sysdadmin@m1k.cloud/
>> + */
>> + config.offdelay_ms = 5000;
>> + config.disable_immediate = false;
>> + } else if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) <
>> + IP_VERSION(3, 5, 0)) {
>> /*
>> * Older HW and DGPU have issues with instant off;
>> * use a 2 frame offdelay.
>> --
>> 2.53.0
>>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] drm/amd/display: Restore 5s vbl offdelay for NV3x+ DGPUs
2026-04-22 17:19 ` Leo Li
@ 2026-04-22 17:42 ` Mario Limonciello
2026-04-22 17:50 ` Michele Palazzi
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mario Limonciello @ 2026-04-22 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Leo Li, Alex Deucher
Cc: amd-gfx, Harry.Wentland, Aurabindo.Pillai, wiagn233, sysdadmin,
stable
On 4/22/26 12:19, Leo Li wrote:
>
>
> On 2026-04-22 12:56, Alex Deucher wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 12:49 PM <sunpeng.li@amd.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Leo Li <sunpeng.li@amd.com>
>>>
>>> [Why]
>>>
>>> Rapid vblank off is causing flip-done timeouts for NV3x and newer
>>> family of GPUs that support more idle optimization features.
>>>
>>> A proper fix requires further investigation. In lieu of it, let's
>>> workaround it for now.
>>>
>>> [How]
>>>
>>> For NV3x and newer family of DGPUs, restore the old 5s vblank off timer.
>>>
>>> Fixes: 9b47278cec98 ("drm/amd/display: temp w/a for dGPU to enter idle optimizations")
>>> Link: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/3787
>>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/amd-gfx/20260217191632.1243826-1-sysdadmin@m1k.cloud/
>>> Signed-off-by: Leo Li <sunpeng.li@amd.com>
>>> Tested-by: Michele Palazzi <sysdadmin@m1k.cloud>
>>> ---
>>> .../gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c | 18 +++++++++++++++---
>>> 1 file changed, 15 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c
>>> index 3fa4dbda4517c..ce5063928413c 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/amdgpu_dm/amdgpu_dm.c
>>> @@ -9511,9 +9511,21 @@ static void manage_dm_interrupts(struct amdgpu_device *adev,
>>> if (acrtc_state) {
>>> timing = &acrtc_state->stream->timing;
>>>
>>> - if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) <
>>> - IP_VERSION(3, 5, 0) ||
>>> - !(adev->flags & AMD_IS_APU)) {
>>> + if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) >=
>>> + IP_VERSION(3, 2, 0) &&
>>> + !(adev->flags & AMD_IS_APU)) {
>>
>> Why only dGPUs? Seems like this is reported as least as often on APUs
>> if not more.
>>
>> Alex
>
> Hi Alex, Mario,
>
> At least in the case of the few reporters I was working with, this specific
> flip-done timeout was reproduced on NV3x and 4x systems running multi-display.
> The reporter for the linked gitlab issue was also running a nv3.
>
> The cause of these flip timeouts can be varied. The signature for this
> particular issue was OTG failing to fire an interrupt that is expected to
> deliver the flip-done event. I'm not aware of this particular signature in APUs
> -- at least none on my radar. Do bring it to my attention if you're aware of
> them.
>
> Thanks,
> Leo
In Michele's proposal
(https://lore.kernel.org/amd-gfx/20260217191632.1243826-1-sysdadmin@m1k.cloud/)
there was a mention that it was tested on DCN 3.5 too, which made me
think that the exact same issue was on both.
Michele - can you readily reproduce the page flip timeout on DCN 3.5?
If so; could you modify Leo's patch to drop the IS_APU designation and
see if it happens to be the same solution?
>
>>
>>> + /*
>>> + * DGPUs NV3x and newer that support idle optimizations
>>> + * experience intermittent flip-done timeouts on cursor
>>> + * updates. Restore 5s offdelay behavior for now.
>>> + *
>>> + * Discussion on the issue:
>>> + * https://lore.kernel.org/amd-gfx/20260217191632.1243826-1-sysdadmin@m1k.cloud/
>>> + */
>>> + config.offdelay_ms = 5000;
>>> + config.disable_immediate = false;
>>> + } else if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) <
>>> + IP_VERSION(3, 5, 0)) {
>>> /*
>>> * Older HW and DGPU have issues with instant off;
>>> * use a 2 frame offdelay.
>>> --
>>> 2.53.0
>>>
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] drm/amd/display: Restore 5s vbl offdelay for NV3x+ DGPUs
2026-04-22 17:42 ` Mario Limonciello
@ 2026-04-22 17:50 ` Michele Palazzi
2026-04-22 17:52 ` Mario Limonciello
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Michele Palazzi @ 2026-04-22 17:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mario Limonciello, Leo Li, Alex Deucher
Cc: amd-gfx, Harry.Wentland, Aurabindo.Pillai, wiagn233, stable
On 4/22/26 19:42, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>
> In Michele's proposal (https://lore.kernel.org/amd-
> gfx/20260217191632.1243826-1-sysdadmin@m1k.cloud/) there was a mention
> that it was tested on DCN 3.5 too, which made me think that the exact
> same issue was on both.
>
> Michele - can you readily reproduce the page flip timeout on DCN 3.5?
>
> If so; could you modify Leo's patch to drop the IS_APU designation and
> see if it happens to be the same solution?
>
>>
>>>
>>>> + /*
>>>> + * DGPUs NV3x and newer that support idle
>>>> optimizations
>>>> + * experience intermittent flip-done
>>>> timeouts on cursor
>>>> + * updates. Restore 5s offdelay behavior for
>>>> now.
>>>> + *
>>>> + * Discussion on the issue:
>>>> + * https://lore.kernel.org/amd-
>>>> gfx/20260217191632.1243826-1-sysdadmin@m1k.cloud/
>>>> + */
>>>> + config.offdelay_ms = 5000;
>>>> + config.disable_immediate = false;
>>>> + } else if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) <
>>>> + IP_VERSION(3, 5, 0)) {
>>>> /*
>>>> * Older HW and DGPU have issues with
>>>> instant off;
>>>> * use a 2 frame offdelay.
>>>> --
>>>> 2.53.0
>>>>
>>
>
Hi Mario, i had tested my proposed patch on multiple APUs in order to
exclude regressions or side effects, but personally i only ever
encountered this particular issue on dGPUs, specifically a 7900 GRE
first and a 9070XT later.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] drm/amd/display: Restore 5s vbl offdelay for NV3x+ DGPUs
2026-04-22 17:50 ` Michele Palazzi
@ 2026-04-22 17:52 ` Mario Limonciello
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mario Limonciello @ 2026-04-22 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michele Palazzi, Leo Li, Alex Deucher
Cc: amd-gfx, Harry.Wentland, Aurabindo.Pillai, wiagn233, stable
On 4/22/26 12:50, Michele Palazzi wrote:
> On 4/22/26 19:42, Mario Limonciello wrote:
>>
>> In Michele's proposal (https://lore.kernel.org/amd-
>> gfx/20260217191632.1243826-1-sysdadmin@m1k.cloud/) there was a mention
>> that it was tested on DCN 3.5 too, which made me think that the exact
>> same issue was on both.
>>
>> Michele - can you readily reproduce the page flip timeout on DCN 3.5?
>>
>> If so; could you modify Leo's patch to drop the IS_APU designation and
>> see if it happens to be the same solution?
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> + /*
>>>>> + * DGPUs NV3x and newer that support idle
>>>>> optimizations
>>>>> + * experience intermittent flip-done
>>>>> timeouts on cursor
>>>>> + * updates. Restore 5s offdelay behavior
>>>>> for now.
>>>>> + *
>>>>> + * Discussion on the issue:
>>>>> + * https://lore.kernel.org/amd-
>>>>> gfx/20260217191632.1243826-1-sysdadmin@m1k.cloud/
>>>>> + */
>>>>> + config.offdelay_ms = 5000;
>>>>> + config.disable_immediate = false;
>>>>> + } else if (amdgpu_ip_version(adev, DCE_HWIP, 0) <
>>>>> + IP_VERSION(3, 5, 0)) {
>>>>> /*
>>>>> * Older HW and DGPU have issues with
>>>>> instant off;
>>>>> * use a 2 frame offdelay.
>>>>> --
>>>>> 2.53.0
>>>>>
>>>
>>
>
> Hi Mario, i had tested my proposed patch on multiple APUs in order to
> exclude regressions or side effects, but personally i only ever
> encountered this particular issue on dGPUs, specifically a 7900 GRE
> first and a 9070XT later.
>
Got it - thanks for clarifying and reaffirming Leo's assertion was
correct on root cause.
Reviewed-by: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
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