* Re: where is ultra linux going?
2001-03-01 15:06 where is ultra linux going? Martin A. Marques
@ 2001-03-01 23:10 ` Joshua Uziel
2001-03-01 23:49 ` dan carter
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From: Joshua Uziel @ 2001-03-01 23:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ultralinux
* Martin A. Marques <martin@math.unl.edu.ar> [010301 07:18]:
> Thats the question, because I see that RedHat doesn't support SPARC arch.
> anymore, so my question would be if I should look at linux or stick with
> Solaris?
You have two good distributions to chose from at the moment in Debian
and SuSE. Slackware should be another option as well soon. If you have
any questions about any of these distributions, I'm happy to answer
them, or point you in the direction needed to have them answered.
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2001-03-01 15:06 where is ultra linux going? Martin A. Marques
2001-03-01 23:10 ` Joshua Uziel
@ 2001-03-01 23:49 ` dan carter
2001-03-02 0:40 ` Joshua Uziel
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From: dan carter @ 2001-03-01 23:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ultralinux
Joshua Uziel wrote:
>
> * Martin A. Marques <martin@math.unl.edu.ar> [010301 07:18]:
> > Thats the question, because I see that RedHat doesn't support SPARC arch.
> > anymore, so my question would be if I should look at linux or stick with
> > Solaris?
>
> You have two good distributions to chose from at the moment in Debian
> and SuSE.
And Mandrake!
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2001-03-01 15:06 where is ultra linux going? Martin A. Marques
2001-03-01 23:10 ` Joshua Uziel
2001-03-01 23:49 ` dan carter
@ 2001-03-02 0:40 ` Joshua Uziel
2001-03-02 12:12 ` Martin A. Marques
2001-03-02 13:19 ` Joshua Uziel
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From: Joshua Uziel @ 2001-03-02 0:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ultralinux
* dan carter <dcarter@waitaki.otago.ac.nz> [010301 15:49]:
> > > Thats the question, because I see that RedHat doesn't support SPARC arch.
> > > anymore, so my question would be if I should look at linux or stick with
> > > Solaris?
> >
> > You have two good distributions to chose from at the moment in Debian
> > and SuSE.
>
> And Mandrake!
Ahh yes... and Mandrake... but Mandrake's seems to be more server
oriented, and less workstation oriented... which is why I tend to forget
about it. :)
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* Re: where is ultra linux going?
2001-03-01 15:06 where is ultra linux going? Martin A. Marques
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2001-03-02 0:40 ` Joshua Uziel
@ 2001-03-02 12:12 ` Martin A. Marques
2001-03-02 13:19 ` Joshua Uziel
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From: Martin A. Marques @ 2001-03-02 12:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ultralinux
El Jue 01 Mar 2001 20:10, Joshua Uziel escribió:
> * Martin A. Marques <martin@math.unl.edu.ar> [010301 07:18]:
> > Thats the question, because I see that RedHat doesn't support SPARC arch.
> > anymore, so my question would be if I should look at linux or stick with
> > Solaris?
>
> You have two good distributions to chose from at the moment in Debian
> and SuSE. Slackware should be another option as well soon. If you have
> any questions about any of these distributions, I'm happy to answer
> them, or point you in the direction needed to have them answered.
Yes, but it seems as the other platforms are having lots of more attention,
especially due to the fact that SUN isn't giving much help, because they
support there Solaris operating system.
With respect of the distros, yes, we have just installed SUSE on an ultra5,
and I have been looking at the Debian distribution. But are they fully 64bit?
Have all the aplications been compiled for 64 bit SPARC? I know that this
isn't the case of Debian, and I'm starting to think that the solution is to
stick with Solaris or change the architecture (alpha maybe).
It's all IMHO.
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2001-03-01 15:06 where is ultra linux going? Martin A. Marques
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2001-03-02 12:12 ` Martin A. Marques
@ 2001-03-02 13:19 ` Joshua Uziel
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From: Joshua Uziel @ 2001-03-02 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ultralinux
* Martin A. Marques <martin@math.unl.edu.ar> [010302 04:16]:
> Yes, but it seems as the other platforms are having lots of more attention,
> especially due to the fact that SUN isn't giving much help, because they
> support there Solaris operating system.
Well, honestly, who can blame Sun? Things are going so well that they
don't seem to feel that they should do anything. Actually, I take that
back... some people within Sun see the value and are cooperating with
the SPARC/Linux developers... some examples:
* Machines are loaned to linux distributors for working on distributions
as well as showing SPARC/Linux at tradeshows. Most (if not all)
SPARCs at LWENY recently were owned by Sun. This included the one in
the SuSE booth, the one in the Slackware/BSDI booth, and the one in
the Debian booth. Most of the work put into Slackware and Debian for
SPARC are built on machines loaned by Sun.
* Sun Microelectronics for a while involved DaveM in working to improve
Linux support for the AX motherboards.
* I'm being loaned an AX1105-500 for the purpose of working on support
for it and the new Sun Blade 100 (which is very similar).
Most of the other platforms have a Unix variant that is dead or at least
on it's way... Solaris still seems to be quite healthy.
> With respect of the distros, yes, we have just installed SUSE on an ultra5,
> and I have been looking at the Debian distribution. But are they fully 64bit?
> Have all the aplications been compiled for 64 bit SPARC? I know that this
> isn't the case of Debian, and I'm starting to think that the solution is to
> stick with Solaris or change the architecture (alpha maybe).
Speaking with Ben Collins (Debian) and Thorsten Kukuk (SuSE), they've
both played with 64-bit userspace. It seems that glibc is more or less
ready, but the compiler (eventually gcc 3.0) still needs work. Using
Jakub Jelinek's hacked compiler, though, you can now have a 64-bit
userspace on SPARC/Linux, but it's more or less experimental. In other
words, a 64-bit userland is "coming soon", but not here yet. Besides,
for the most part, a 64-bit userspace isn't all that needed. Even
Solaris ships with mostly 32-bit applications, and only 64-bit when it
really counts.
> It's all IMHO.
Of course. :)
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