From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
"Albert Esteve" <aesteve@redhat.com>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: Where should the vhost-user specification live?
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2026 12:58:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260601165824.GA428611@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260601102216-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
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On Mon, Jun 01, 2026 at 10:22:32AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 01, 2026 at 09:51:40AM -0400, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 9:12 AM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 01, 2026 at 03:05:50PM +0200, Albert Esteve wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2026 at 2:39 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 01, 2026 at 02:32:11PM +0200, Albert Esteve wrote:
> > > > > > But also because, in my opinion, separating
> > > > > > the specification would improve development agility by decoupling
> > > > > > specification development from QEMU's review and release cycles.
> > > > >
> > > > > Generally for QEMU this will be less agility, unless I misunderstand
> > > > > what is proposed)
> > > > >
> > > > > Because presumably there will need to be spec releases then?
> > > > >
> > > > > So
> > > > > new feature -> spec tree -> spec release -> qemu implementation -> qemu release
> > > > >
> > > > > is surely longer that what we have now.
> > > >
> > > > I see your point.
> > > >
> > > > However, we do not really need to introduce a heavy release management
> > > > layer. We could just operate it as a living document, where the main
> > > > branch is the authoritative source of truth.
> > > >
> > > > For the workflow, development doesn't have to be strictly sequential
> > > > either. A contributor can propose the spec update while working on the
> > > > implementation, much like we do for VirtIO updates. Actually, this way
> > > > one update/change supports the other.
> > > >
> > > > I guess my point is that a dedicated repository could lower the
> > > > barrier for new changes AND keep QEMU's own development speed mostly
> > > > unaffected.
> > > >
> > > > BR,
> > > > Albert
> > >
> > > Something something submodule? Possibly. If you want to make progress
> > > on this, pls think of the process, try it out.
> >
> > If I understand correctly, the motivation for moving the spec
> > somewhere else is to replace the email patch review process with a git
> > forge review process?
>
> wait who said that?
I thought that's what the issue ultimately comes down to but it's clear
now that's not it.
Stefan
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Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-27 9:13 Where should the vhost-user specification live? Alex Bennée
2026-05-27 12:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-05-27 13:58 ` Alex Bennée
2026-06-01 12:32 ` Albert Esteve
2026-06-01 12:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-01 13:05 ` Albert Esteve
2026-06-01 13:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <CAJSP0QV4W=5MJsSGggACv-tqxDtiieKc0YzEn8t-R=RD94KJaQ@mail.gmail.com>
2026-06-01 14:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-01 16:58 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2026-06-01 14:27 ` Albert Esteve
2026-06-01 14:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2026-06-01 15:18 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2026-06-01 20:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <CACzuRyxedVMHNGkRf7AVyPWUTMgBMa6_DBnSHn+V6H7wN7XzWw@mail.gmail.com>
2026-06-04 16:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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