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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Christian Schoenebeck <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>, Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>,
	Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
	Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] Add CCW configuration field "indirect_num"
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2022 17:10:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871qyzs0lh.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11686863.Z9n2BMzBuM@silver>

On Fri, Mar 18 2022, Christian Schoenebeck <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com> wrote:

> On Donnerstag, 17. März 2022 15:12:42 CET Cornelia Huck wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 16 2022, Christian Schoenebeck <qemu_oss@crudebyte.com> wrote:

>> > +Since revision 3, \field{indirect_num} exists, which is supposed to
>> > reflect the +Queue Indirect Size (i.e. the maximum length of indirect
>> > descriptor tables) +supported by device for this queue.
>> 
>> It still depends on the feature flag, though.
>> 
>> Maybe
>> 
>> "If revision 2 or lower is set, struct vq_config_block extends up to
>> \field{max_num}.
>> 
>> If revision 3 or higher is set, struct vq_config_block extends to
>> \field{max_indirect_num}. If VIRTIO_RING_F_INDIRECT_SIZE is negotiated,
>> \field{indirect_max_num} contains the maximum Queue Indirect Size
>> (i.e. the maximum length of indirect descriptor tables) supported by the
>> device for this queue; otherwise, its contents are unpredictable."
>
> Maybe rather something like this instead:
>
> "Actual size of struct vq_config_block depends on the virtio-ccw revision.
>
> If revision 2 or lower is set, struct vq_config_block extends up to
> *including* \field{max_num}.
>
> If revision 3 or higher is set, struct vq_config_block extends up to
> *including* \field{max_indirect_num}. If VIRTIO_RING_F_INDIRECT_SIZE is 
> negotiated, \field{indirect_max_num} contains the maximum Queue Indirect Size
> (i.e. the maximum length of indirect descriptor tables) supported by the
> device for this queue; otherwise, its contents are *undefined*."

Hm, I was coming from the driver's perspective here. But "undefined"
probably captures "junk in there, do not use" better.

Ack on your other points.

>> We should include a device normative statement:
>> 
>> "The device MUST NOT offer VIRTIO_RING_F_INDIRECT_SIZE, unless at least
>> revision 3 is set, and therefore \field{max_indirect_num} respectively
>> \field{indirect_num} are available."
>
> Oh, you are suggesting two different names for those two fields? 
> "max_indirect_num" vs. "indirect_num". If yes, why?

The "max_indirect_num" goes with the "max_num": this is the maximum
value that the device supports (the "maximum maximum", in a way :).
"indirect_num" is the actual upper limit while the device is in use.

>
> Otherwise about adding that normative statement in general here: sure, makes 
> sense.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-03-18 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-16 13:44 [PATCH v3 0/4] Add VIRTIO_RING_F_INDIRECT_SIZE and queue_indirect_size Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-16 13:47 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] Add VIRTIO_RING_F_INDIRECT_SIZE Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-17 13:40   ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-03-18 10:45     ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-18 16:03       ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-03-19  9:33   ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-19 12:00     ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-20 12:31       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-20 13:32         ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-20 13:55           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-20 15:17             ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-20 16:06               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-20 16:07                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-20 17:43                 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-20 21:52                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-21  9:23                     ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-21 22:13                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-23 10:20                         ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-23 12:35                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-24  9:16                             ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-24 10:36                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-24 11:11                                 ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-24 11:16                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-24 11:52                                     ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-16 13:50 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] Add PCI configuration field "queue_indirect_size" Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-16 14:41   ` [virtio-comment] " Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-16 13:52 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] Add MMIO configuration register "QueueIndirectNum" Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-16 13:55 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] Add CCW configuration field "indirect_num" Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-17 14:12   ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-03-18 11:02     ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-18 16:06       ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-19 10:12         ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-21 16:36           ` Cornelia Huck
2022-03-22  1:56             ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-22  9:57               ` Cornelia Huck
2022-03-22 11:21                 ` Halil Pasic
2022-03-18 16:10       ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2022-03-19 10:23         ` Christian Schoenebeck
2022-03-21 16:25           ` Cornelia Huck

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