From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com,
cohuck@redhat.com, sgarzare@redhat.com, nrupal.jani@intel.com,
Piotr.Uminski@intel.com, hang.yuan@intel.com,
virtio@lists.oasis-open.org,
Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>,
pasic@linux.ibm.com, Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>,
Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v10 03/10] admin: introduce group administration commands
Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2023 08:13:37 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230303131337.GA2866370@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230302185214-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
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On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 06:57:24PM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 03:10:11PM -0500, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 08:05:02AM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > This introduces a general structure for group administration commands,
> > > used to control device groups through their owner.
> > >
> > > Following patches will introduce specific commands and an interface for
> > > submitting these commands to the owner.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > > admin.tex | 108 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > introduction.tex | 3 ++
> > > 2 files changed, 111 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/admin.tex b/admin.tex
> > > index 3dc47be..7e28b77 100644
> > > --- a/admin.tex
> > > +++ b/admin.tex
> > > @@ -46,4 +46,112 @@ \section{Device groups}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Device g
> > > PCI transport (see \ref{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus}).
> > > \end{description}
> > >
> > > +\subsection{Group administration commands}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Device groups / Group administration commands}
> > >
> > > +The driver sends group administration commands to the owner device of
> >
> > I notice that the terminology is simply "the driver". "Owner driver"
> > and "group member driver" might be clearer because there will be two
> > (possibly different) drivers involved.
>
> Hmm I don't really want to repeat owner everywhere.
> I will clarify that in this section simple "driver" and "device" are
> owner, "member device" and "member driver" is always called explicitly.
Sounds good.
> > > +a group to control member devices of the group.
> > > +This mechanism can
> > > +be used, for example, to configure a member device before it is
> > > +initialized by its driver.
> > > +\footnote{The term "administration" is intended to be interpreted
> > > +widely to include any kind of control. See specific commands
> > > +for detail.}
> > > +
> > > +All the group administration commands are of the following form:
> > > +
> > > +\begin{lstlisting}
> > > +struct virtio_admin_cmd {
> > > + /* Device-readable part */
> > > + le16 opcode;
> > > + /*
> > > + * 1 - SR-IOV
> > > + * 2 - 65535 reserved
> > > + */
> > > + le16 group_type;
> > > + /* unused, reserved for future extensions */
> > > + u8 reserved1[12];
> > > + le64 group_member_id;
> > > + u8 command_specific_data[];
> > > +
> > > + /* Device-writable part */
> > > + le16 status;
> > > + le16 status_qualifier;
> > > + /* unused, reserved for future extensions */
> > > + u8 reserved2[4];
> > > + u8 command_specific_result[];
> > > +};
> > > +\end{lstlisting}
> > > +
> > > +For all commands, \field{opcode}, \field{group_type} and if
> > > +necessary \field{group_member_id} and \field{command_specific_data} are
> > > +set by the driver, and the owner device sets \field{status} and if
> > > +needed \field{status_qualifier} and
> > > +\field{command_specific_result}.
> > > +
> > > +Generally, any unused device-readable fields are set to zero by the driver
> > > +and ignored by the device. Any unused device-writeable fields are set to zero
> > > +by the device and ignored by the driver.
> > > +
> > > +\field{opcode} specifies the command. The valid
> > > +values for \field{opcode} can be found in the following table:
> > > +
> > > +\begin{tabular}{|l|l|}
> > > +\hline
> > > +opcode & Name & Command Description \\
> > > +\hline \hline
> > > +0x0000 - 0x7FFF & - & Group administration commands \\
> > > +\hline
> > > +0x8000 - 0xFFFF & - & Reserved \\
> > > +\hline
> > > +\end{tabular}
> >
> > I thought all commands are "group administration commands" but this
> > table makes it look like they are just a subset (0x0000 - 0x7FFF) of
> > group administration commands, which is a paradox.
>
> Well the rest are reserved, maybe we will have more command types who
> knows. No?
I see. Does that mean the reserved commands don't need to be in the same
format as struct virtio_admin_cmd?
The entire section is called "Group administration commands" but I get
the impression it's talking both about admin virtqueue commands in
general and specifically about group administration commands.
Is it possible to structure this as follows:
Admin Commands
...common stuff...
Group Administration Commands (0x0000-0x7fff)
...specific to group administration commands...
Reserved (0x8000-0xffff)
> > > +
> > > +The \field{group_type} specifies the group type identifier.
> > > +The \field{group_member_id} specifies the member identifier within the group.
> > > +See section \ref{sec:Introduction / Terminology / Device group}
> > > +for the definition of the group type identifier and group member
> > > +identifier.
> > > +
> > > +The following table describes possible \field{status} values;
> > > +to simplify common implementations, they are intentionally
> > > +matching common \hyperref[intro:errno]{Linux error names and numbers}:
> > > +
> > > +\begin{tabular}{|l|l|l|}
> > > +\hline
> > > +Status (decimal) & Name & Description \\
> > > +\hline \hline
> > > +00 & VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_OK & successful completion \\
> > > +\hline
> > > +22 & VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_EINVAL & invalid command \\
> > > +\hline
> > > +other & - & group administration command error \\
> > > +\hline
> > > +\end{tabular}
> > > +
> > > +When \field{status} is VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_OK, \field{status_qialifier}
> >
> > s/qialifier/qualifier/
> >
> > > +is reserved and set to zero by the device.
> > > +
> > > +When \field{status} is VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_EINVAL,
> > > +the following table describes possible \field{status_qialifier} values:
> >
> > s/qialifier/qualifier/
> >
> > > +\begin{tabular}{|l|l|l|}
> > > +\hline
> > > +Status & Name & Description \\
> > > +\hline \hline
> > > +0x00 & VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_Q_INVALID_COMMAND & command error: no additional information \\
> > > +\hline
> > > +0x01 & VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_Q_INVALID_OPCODE & unsupported or invalid \field{opcode} \\
> > > +\hline
> > > +0x02 & VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_Q_INVALID_FIELD & unsupported or invalid field within \field{command_specific_data} \\
> > > +\hline
> > > +0x03 & VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_Q_INVALID_GROUP & unsupported or invalid \field{group_type} \\
> > > +\hline
> > > +0x04 & VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_Q_INVALID_MEMBER & unsupported or invalid \field{group_member_id} \\
> > > +\hline
> > > +0x05-0xFFFF & - & reserved for future use \\
> > > +\hline
> > > +\end{tabular}
> > > +
> > > +Each command uses a different \field{command_specific_data} and
> > > +\field{command_specific_result} structures and the length of
> > > +\field{command_specific_data} and \field{command_specific_result}
> > > +depends on these structures and is described separately or is
> > > +implicit in the structure description.
> >
> > On more thing:
> >
> > Does the owner device see commands in order but may complete them in any
> > order?
> >
> > I think this information might be useful just to make it clear that
> > driver authors shouldn't make assumptions about ordering and completion
> > order, e.g. pipelining a bunch of dependent commands doesn't work
> > because the first command is not necessarily completed before the second
> > command is started.
>
> I think this is discussed when we discuss sending commands through vq.
> in this section it's just about commands generally whatever the way
> to send them to device. no?
Okay. I'm reading this patch series linearly and the question popped
into my mind here. Glad it's already covered elsewhere.
Stefan
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2023-03-02 18:39 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
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2023-03-06 22:00 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 10:04 ` David Edmondson
2023-03-08 14:16 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-03-08 15:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 13:04 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 02/10] admin: introduce device group and related concepts Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 18:39 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-02 23:44 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 19:40 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-06 17:00 ` David Edmondson
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2023-03-02 18:40 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-02 20:19 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-03 0:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-03 13:17 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-03 13:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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2023-03-07 18:33 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-08 0:34 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 1:01 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-08 1:06 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 1:14 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
[not found] ` <6668fd7a-3eb3-0447-9cbf-72d308b1336a@nvidia.com>
2023-03-08 12:07 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <992e9a1e-3799-842c-79f3-e66f5c823356@nvidia.com>
2023-03-08 14:43 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-03-08 14:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 15:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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2023-03-09 6:38 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 23:47 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 18:26 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
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2023-03-02 23:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-03 13:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2023-03-03 13:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-03 20:23 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-07 11:31 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-08 12:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 10:31 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " David Edmondson
2023-03-02 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 04/10] admin: introduce virtio admin virtqueues Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 18:40 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-02 23:48 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 20:40 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-03 0:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-03 13:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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2023-03-03 20:21 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-05 9:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-06 0:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-06 0:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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2023-03-06 18:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-06 20:17 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-06 21:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-31 11:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 8:03 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-07 14:39 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-07 15:07 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-07 19:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-07 19:09 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-08 5:17 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Jason Wang
2023-03-08 11:58 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-08 11:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 10:17 ` [virtio-dev] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-08 12:44 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-08 12:57 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-08 17:17 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-07 16:13 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 10:08 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-08 11:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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[not found] ` <853c78d0-f752-05e9-d79d-811e82801627@nvidia.com>
2023-03-06 16:25 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-07 19:04 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
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2023-03-08 17:15 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-08 17:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-09 12:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-09 13:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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[not found] ` <18d51bc0-d759-1a05-cb7c-3d46c4ed2f1a@nvidia.com>
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2023-03-08 21:25 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
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2023-03-09 17:16 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
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2023-03-09 7:37 ` [virtio-dev] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-09 12:36 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-09 16:32 ` [virtio-dev] " Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <17471553-8981-eef9-656b-098e1acdda14@nvidia.com>
2023-03-06 18:44 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 10:41 ` David Edmondson
2023-03-02 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 05/10] pci: add admin vq registers to virtio over pci Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 20:51 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-02 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 06/10] mmio: document ADMIN_VQ as reserved Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 18:40 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-02 23:51 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 23:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-03 8:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <ZAXB44F3MS9CxIiK@nanopsycho>
2023-03-06 18:46 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 7:40 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-07 18:52 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-08 16:24 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2023-03-08 16:37 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-08 16:30 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 18:21 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-02 20:52 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-02 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 07/10] ccw: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 20:53 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-02 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 08/10] admin: command list discovery Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 21:09 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-31 11:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 10:54 ` [virtio-dev] " David Edmondson
[not found] ` <ZAXbBgN2jw8RhE/3@nanopsycho>
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2023-03-08 12:41 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-31 11:43 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 12:38 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-10 8:14 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-03-02 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 09/10] admin: conformance clauses Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 11:04 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " David Edmondson
2023-03-08 11:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 12:59 ` David Edmondson
2023-03-08 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-08 13:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 13:44 ` David Edmondson
2023-03-08 14:02 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-08 14:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-10 9:10 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-03-10 9:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-10 18:00 ` Zhu Lingshan
2023-03-10 9:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 10/10] ccw: document more reserved features Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 21:12 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-02 13:38 ` [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v10 00/10] Introduce device group and device management Parav Pandit
2023-03-02 23:27 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 18:39 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-06 16:40 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-06 22:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 7:17 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-07 17:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <ZAXcqqdwfoLokT2l@nanopsycho>
2023-03-06 22:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 7:21 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-07 17:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 19:31 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-08 5:11 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-03-08 12:02 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-10 8:32 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-03-08 9:49 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-08 16:30 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2023-03-08 17:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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