From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>
To: Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
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Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] Re: [virtio] [PATCH v10 04/10] admin: introduce virtio admin virtqueues
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2023 08:37:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZAmMp3W4CwL9xpD2@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <PH0PR12MB5481E320D33B4594F050B3C8DCB49@PH0PR12MB5481.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 10:45:18PM CET, parav@nvidia.com wrote:
>
>> From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 5:05 AM
>
>> >For example a common feature is to program a vlan and have device put a
>> >given VF inside this vlan.
>>
>> I don't follow entirely. The way how the VF is connected to network should be
>> ouf of the scope of this interface. The eswitch manager should take care. What
>> you say sounds awfully like the "ip vf" legacy interface, which should not be
>> considered here I believe.
>>
>> If PF would be the eswitch manager, there are other means to do network
>> programming, using eswitch port representors. But I don't think this is the can
>> of worms we want to open now. I don't think we have a usecase for it currently.
>> Am I wrong Parav?
>>
>>
>We want the ability to program/provision the virtio feature bits and virtio config space parameters of the VF through PF.
>These are host-facing parameters that usually migrate from one to another host when a VF migrates.
Here is where we lack to have separate "devlink function" entity,
independend of "devlink port" :/ I mean, for MAC config and irq vectors.
What other host facing parmeters you have in mind. VLAN of "ip vf" is
definitelly one of them, I have to emphasize.
>
>A future device may even do this out of band, but we are far from it.
>At that point in the future virtio management device can take birth and do things over it.
>
>ip vf was legacy interface and it is not applicable here.
Agreed, unacceptable to implement "ip vf" legacy interfaces in
virtio_net from my perspective.
>virtio net doesn't implement it either and I don't see any user asking for it either.
>All users have migrated to using tc mechanism for long time now.
Okay, so the bottom line is, we should take care of host facing config
of VF, but we should not care about network plug of VF - that stays out
of the scope.
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2023-03-02 13:04 [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 00/10] Introduce device group and device management Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 13:04 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 01/10] virtio: document forward compatibility guarantees Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 18:39 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-02 23:43 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <m2leka0yvl.fsf@oracle.com>
2023-03-06 22:00 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 10:04 ` David Edmondson
2023-03-08 14:16 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-03-08 15:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 13:04 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 02/10] admin: introduce device group and related concepts Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 18:39 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-02 23:44 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 19:40 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-06 17:00 ` David Edmondson
2023-03-02 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 03/10] admin: introduce group administration commands Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 18:40 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-02 20:19 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-03 0:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-03 13:17 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-03 13:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <4f869944-4ccd-c51e-0f30-dc3ba15ffd52@nvidia.com>
2023-03-07 18:33 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-08 0:34 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 1:01 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-08 1:06 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 1:14 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
[not found] ` <6668fd7a-3eb3-0447-9cbf-72d308b1336a@nvidia.com>
2023-03-08 12:07 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <992e9a1e-3799-842c-79f3-e66f5c823356@nvidia.com>
2023-03-08 14:43 ` Cornelia Huck
2023-03-08 14:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 15:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <2ef47f53-5978-4b6a-593d-4e94eba0b9ac@nvidia.com>
2023-03-09 6:38 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 23:47 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 18:26 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-02 20:10 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-02 23:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-03 13:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-03 13:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-03 20:23 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-07 11:31 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-08 12:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 10:31 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " David Edmondson
2023-03-02 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 04/10] admin: introduce virtio admin virtqueues Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 18:40 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-02 23:48 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 20:40 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-03 0:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-03 13:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-03 13:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-03 20:21 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-05 9:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-06 0:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-06 0:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <20230306110340.GA35392@fedora>
2023-03-06 18:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-06 20:17 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-06 21:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-31 11:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 8:03 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-07 14:39 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-07 15:07 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-07 19:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-07 19:09 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-08 5:17 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Jason Wang
2023-03-08 11:58 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-08 11:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 10:17 ` [virtio-dev] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-08 12:44 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-08 12:57 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-08 17:17 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-07 16:13 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 10:08 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-08 11:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <7f63fa0a-7deb-5875-6c6b-bfc651681653@redhat.com>
[not found] ` <20230306112030.GB35392@fedora>
[not found] ` <853c78d0-f752-05e9-d79d-811e82801627@nvidia.com>
2023-03-06 16:25 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-07 19:04 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
[not found] ` <e74483a4-38fa-99b5-86b8-785f0b98d029@nvidia.com>
2023-03-08 14:13 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-08 16:21 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
[not found] ` <18ddbf69-19a6-3c6b-9e42-aaae66e20bcf@nvidia.com>
2023-03-08 17:15 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-08 17:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-09 12:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-09 13:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-09 15:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
[not found] ` <e8d41902-b794-66e9-8f15-e8617435047c@redhat.com>
2023-03-06 16:22 ` [virtio-dev] " Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <027fff1b-8ed7-abc0-2331-b188b8822bf4@nvidia.com>
2023-03-06 22:49 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <e12ab469-4586-f0f5-b084-8f2d7c031e11@nvidia.com>
2023-03-08 21:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 21:17 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-09 7:28 ` [virtio-dev] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-07 7:56 ` Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <ZAXfegxCfvfLwiJT@nanopsycho>
2023-03-06 18:40 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 7:36 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-07 16:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 10:05 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-08 11:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 12:08 ` Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <18d51bc0-d759-1a05-cb7c-3d46c4ed2f1a@nvidia.com>
2023-03-08 18:01 ` David Edmondson
2023-03-08 18:19 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-08 21:25 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-09 7:30 ` [virtio-dev] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-09 13:04 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-09 13:57 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-09 14:02 ` [virtio-dev] " David Edmondson
2023-03-09 14:11 ` Parav Pandit
2023-03-09 14:22 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-09 14:30 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-09 14:43 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-09 16:53 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-09 17:14 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-09 17:16 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-08 21:45 ` Parav Pandit
2023-03-09 7:37 ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2023-03-09 12:36 ` Parav Pandit
2023-03-09 16:32 ` [virtio-dev] " Jiri Pirko
[not found] ` <17471553-8981-eef9-656b-098e1acdda14@nvidia.com>
2023-03-06 18:44 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 10:41 ` David Edmondson
2023-03-02 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 05/10] pci: add admin vq registers to virtio over pci Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 20:51 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-02 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 06/10] mmio: document ADMIN_VQ as reserved Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 18:40 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-02 23:51 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 23:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-03 8:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <ZAXB44F3MS9CxIiK@nanopsycho>
2023-03-06 18:46 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 7:40 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-07 18:52 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-08 16:24 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2023-03-08 16:37 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-08 16:30 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 18:21 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-02 20:52 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-02 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 07/10] ccw: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 20:53 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-02 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 08/10] admin: command list discovery Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 21:09 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-31 11:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 10:54 ` [virtio-dev] " David Edmondson
[not found] ` <ZAXbBgN2jw8RhE/3@nanopsycho>
2023-03-08 11:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 12:41 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-31 11:43 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 12:38 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-10 8:14 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-03-02 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 09/10] admin: conformance clauses Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 11:04 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " David Edmondson
2023-03-08 11:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 12:59 ` David Edmondson
2023-03-08 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-08 13:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-08 13:44 ` David Edmondson
2023-03-08 14:02 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-08 14:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-10 9:10 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
2023-03-10 9:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-10 18:00 ` Zhu Lingshan
2023-03-10 9:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 13:05 ` [virtio-dev] [PATCH v10 10/10] ccw: document more reserved features Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 21:12 ` [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-03-02 13:38 ` [virtio-dev] RE: [PATCH v10 00/10] Introduce device group and device management Parav Pandit
2023-03-02 23:27 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-02 18:39 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-06 16:40 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-comment] " Jiri Pirko
2023-03-06 22:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 7:17 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-07 17:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
[not found] ` <ZAXcqqdwfoLokT2l@nanopsycho>
2023-03-06 22:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 7:21 ` Jiri Pirko
2023-03-07 17:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-07 19:31 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-08 5:11 ` [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2023-03-08 12:02 ` [virtio-dev] " Parav Pandit
2023-03-10 8:32 ` [virtio-dev] " Zhu, Lingshan
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