* Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period.
@ 2020-10-21 0:48 Tim Orling
2020-10-22 21:36 ` [OE-core] " Martin Jansa
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From: Tim Orling @ 2020-10-21 0:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: yocto, openembedded-core,
openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org
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I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly clear when I
created the meta-python2 layer.
If you depend upon continuing support of python2 via the meta-python2
layer, this is your call to arms.
I was originally intending to abdicate any support after the 3.1 "dunfell"
release, but managed to somehow continue supporting it into the crest of
the 3.2 "gatesgarth" release.
I will stop all support and actively refuse lo respond to any emails and
this layer will be dead and I have zero care in the world that it stops
being useful. I do not use it. I do not depend upon it. You are not paying
me to do this. You cannot pay me enough to do this. Period. Support
yourself.
If this is not clear enough, I am happy to have a virtual video call with
you that you will not like.
--moto-timo
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread* Re: [OE-core] Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period. 2020-10-21 0:48 Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period Tim Orling @ 2020-10-22 21:36 ` Martin Jansa 2020-10-22 21:39 ` [yocto] " Khem Raj 2020-10-24 10:53 ` [yocto] " Zoran ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Martin Jansa @ 2020-10-22 21:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tim Orling Cc: Yocto-mailing-list, openembedded-core, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2151 bytes --] There were only a few changes needed between dunfell and gatesgarth to keep it building and I feel guilty for sending half of them - and pinging you on FB :). I don't have interest in python2, but it's still used by quite a few components included in other layers are care about (e.g. qtwebengine in meta-qt5, chromium in meta-browser - https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=942720 is still quite far from finished) and at LGE we maintain meta-ros https://github.com/ros/meta-ros which contains support for ROS 1 Melodic which is usually used with python2 and support ends May 2023 (together with Ubuntu Bionic it's usually used with: http://wiki.ros.org/Distributions - just today I've separated meta-ros-python2 layer with python2 recipes which disappeared from oe-core in warrior and were never re-introduced in meta-python2 (like nose and numpy). If you're looking for someone just keeping it buildable, then you can sign me up. If it gets more annoying to maintain in future we can also split it for pythonnative.bbclass and python recipe itself - to keep just the bare minimum of recipes which are actively being used without all the other junk. Cheers, On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 2:48 AM Tim Orling <ticotimo@gmail.com> wrote: > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly clear when I > created the meta-python2 layer. > > If you depend upon continuing support of python2 via the meta-python2 > layer, this is your call to arms. > > I was originally intending to abdicate any support after the 3.1 "dunfell" > release, but managed to somehow continue supporting it into the crest of > the 3.2 "gatesgarth" release. > > I will stop all support and actively refuse lo respond to any emails and > this layer will be dead and I have zero care in the world that it stops > being useful. I do not use it. I do not depend upon it. You are not paying > me to do this. You cannot pay me enough to do this. Period. Support > yourself. > > If this is not clear enough, I am happy to have a virtual video call with > you that you will not like. > > --moto-timo > > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2779 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [yocto] [OE-core] Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period. 2020-10-22 21:36 ` [OE-core] " Martin Jansa @ 2020-10-22 21:39 ` Khem Raj 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Khem Raj @ 2020-10-22 21:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Martin Jansa, Tim Orling Cc: Yocto-mailing-list, openembedded-core, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org On 10/22/20 2:36 PM, Martin Jansa wrote: > There were only a few changes needed between dunfell and gatesgarth to > keep it building and I feel guilty for sending half of them - and > pinging you on FB :). > > I don't have interest in python2, but it's still used by quite a few > components included in other layers are care about (e.g. qtwebengine in > meta-qt5, chromium in meta-browser - > https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=942720 > <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=942720> is still > quite far from finished) and at LGE we maintain meta-ros > https://github.com/ros/meta-ros <https://github.com/ros/meta-ros> which > contains support for ROS 1 Melodic which is usually used with python2 > and support ends May 2023 (together with Ubuntu Bionic it's usually used > with: http://wiki.ros.org/Distributions > <http://wiki.ros.org/Distributions> - just today I've separated > meta-ros-python2 layer with python2 recipes which disappeared from > oe-core in warrior and were never re-introduced in meta-python2 (like > nose and numpy). > > If you're looking for someone just keeping it buildable, then you can > sign me up. If it gets more annoying to maintain in future we can also > split it for pythonnative.bbclass and python recipe itself - to keep > just the bare minimum of recipes which are actively being used without > all the other junk. minimum is better. > > Cheers, > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 2:48 AM Tim Orling <ticotimo@gmail.com > <mailto:ticotimo@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly clear > when I created the meta-python2 layer. > > If you depend upon continuing support of python2 via the > meta-python2 layer, this is your call to arms. > > I was originally intending to abdicate any support after the 3.1 > "dunfell" release, but managed to somehow continue supporting it > into the crest of the 3.2 "gatesgarth" release. > > I will stop all support and actively refuse lo respond to any emails > and this layer will be dead and I have zero care in the world that > it stops being useful. I do not use it. I do not depend upon it. You > are not paying me to do this. You cannot pay me enough to do this. > Period. Support yourself. > > If this is not clear enough, I am happy to have a virtual video call > with you that you will not like. > > --moto-timo > > > > > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [yocto] Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period. 2020-10-21 0:48 Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period Tim Orling 2020-10-22 21:36 ` [OE-core] " Martin Jansa @ 2020-10-24 10:53 ` Zoran 2020-10-24 11:19 ` Alexander Kanavin [not found] ` <1640E842B1461A14.10923@lists.yoctoproject.org> [not found] ` <16406E32EA0586FD.712@lists.yoctoproject.org> 3 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Zoran @ 2020-10-24 10:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Tim Orling Cc: yocto, openembedded-core, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly > clear when I created the meta-python2 layer. WTH? Let me tell you how I really feel. I have absolutely no need for python2, as well. > You are not paying me to do this. You cannot pay me enough > to do this. Period. Support yourself. What is the amount of cash for you, you'll consider it enough to do that??? Better... What is the real message behind this/yours "announcement"? Thank you, Zoran _______ On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 2:48 AM Tim Orling <ticotimo@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly clear when I created the meta-python2 layer. > > If you depend upon continuing support of python2 via the meta-python2 layer, this is your call to arms. > > I was originally intending to abdicate any support after the 3.1 "dunfell" release, but managed to somehow continue supporting it into the crest of the 3.2 "gatesgarth" release. > > I will stop all support and actively refuse lo respond to any emails and this layer will be dead and I have zero care in the world that it stops being useful. I do not use it. I do not depend upon it. You are not paying me to do this. You cannot pay me enough to do this. Period. Support yourself. > > If this is not clear enough, I am happy to have a virtual video call with you that you will not like. > > --moto-timo > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [yocto] Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period. 2020-10-24 10:53 ` [yocto] " Zoran @ 2020-10-24 11:19 ` Alexander Kanavin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Alexander Kanavin @ 2020-10-24 11:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Zoran Cc: Tim Orling, openembedded-core, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org, yocto [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1968 bytes --] I guess some people or companies somehow felt entitled to Tim doing continuing python2 layer support for them in a particularly annoying way, and this was a reality check for them. We are all volunteers and we owe nothing to anyone. If you don’t like this proposition, get a commercial support contract or hire more people to do the work you want to be done. Alex On Sat 24. Oct 2020 at 12.54, Zoran <zoran.stojsavljevic@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly > > clear when I created the meta-python2 layer. > > WTH? Let me tell you how I really feel. > > I have absolutely no need for python2, as well. > > > You are not paying me to do this. You cannot pay me enough > > to do this. Period. Support yourself. > > What is the amount of cash for you, you'll consider it enough to > do that??? > > Better... What is the real message behind this/yours "announcement"? > > Thank you, > Zoran > _______ > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 2:48 AM Tim Orling <ticotimo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly clear when > I created the meta-python2 layer. > > > > If you depend upon continuing support of python2 via the meta-python2 > layer, this is your call to arms. > > > > I was originally intending to abdicate any support after the 3.1 > "dunfell" release, but managed to somehow continue supporting it into the > crest of the 3.2 "gatesgarth" release. > > > > I will stop all support and actively refuse lo respond to any emails and > this layer will be dead and I have zero care in the world that it stops > being useful. I do not use it. I do not depend upon it. You are not paying > me to do this. You cannot pay me enough to do this. Period. Support > yourself. > > > > If this is not clear enough, I am happy to have a virtual video call > with you that you will not like. > > > > --moto-timo > > > > > > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 2574 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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* Re: [yocto] Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period. [not found] ` <1640E842B1461A14.10923@lists.yoctoproject.org> @ 2020-10-24 17:38 ` Zoran 2020-10-24 20:22 ` Alexander Kanavin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Zoran @ 2020-10-24 17:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Alexander Kanavin, Alexander Kanavin Cc: Tim Orling, yocto, openembedded-core, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org Alex, Either do it voluntarily, either do not. Do not complain, or brag about it. We all understand Open Source rules, or we do not, do we??? Thank you, Zoran Stojsavljevic _______ On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 12:54 PM Zoran via lists.yoctoproject.org <zoran.stojsavljevic=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: > > > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly > > clear when I created the meta-python2 layer. > > WTH? Let me tell you how I really feel. > > I have absolutely no need for python2, as well. > > > You are not paying me to do this. You cannot pay me enough > > to do this. Period. Support yourself. > > What is the amount of cash for you, you'll consider it enough to > do that??? > > Better... What is the real message behind this/yours "announcement"? > > Thank you, > Zoran > _______ > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 2:48 AM Tim Orling <ticotimo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly clear when I created the meta-python2 layer. > > > > If you depend upon continuing support of python2 via the meta-python2 layer, this is your call to arms. > > > > I was originally intending to abdicate any support after the 3.1 "dunfell" release, but managed to somehow continue supporting it into the crest of the 3.2 "gatesgarth" release. > > > > I will stop all support and actively refuse lo respond to any emails and this layer will be dead and I have zero care in the world that it stops being useful. I do not use it. I do not depend upon it. You are not paying me to do this. You cannot pay me enough to do this. Period. Support yourself. > > > > If this is not clear enough, I am happy to have a virtual video call with you that you will not like. > > > > --moto-timo > > > > > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [yocto] Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period. 2020-10-24 17:38 ` Zoran @ 2020-10-24 20:22 ` Alexander Kanavin 2020-10-24 20:26 ` Zoran 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Alexander Kanavin @ 2020-10-24 20:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Zoran Stojsavljevic Cc: Tim Orling, yocto, openembedded-core, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2309 bytes --] I am not complaining or bragging. I only want to set expectations, in public, and clearly. Otherwise some people will treat the project contributors as their unpaid contractors, and get upset when help is not given, or work is not done for them. Alex On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 at 19:38, Zoran Stojsavljevic < zoran.stojsavljevic@gmail.com> wrote: > Alex, > > Either do it voluntarily, either do not. > > Do not complain, or brag about it. > > We all understand Open Source rules, or we do not, do we??? > > Thank you, > Zoran Stojsavljevic > _______ > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 12:54 PM Zoran via lists.yoctoproject.org > <zoran.stojsavljevic=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: > > > > > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly > > > clear when I created the meta-python2 layer. > > > > WTH? Let me tell you how I really feel. > > > > I have absolutely no need for python2, as well. > > > > > You are not paying me to do this. You cannot pay me enough > > > to do this. Period. Support yourself. > > > > What is the amount of cash for you, you'll consider it enough to > > do that??? > > > > Better... What is the real message behind this/yours "announcement"? > > > > Thank you, > > Zoran > > _______ > > > > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 2:48 AM Tim Orling <ticotimo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly clear > when I created the meta-python2 layer. > > > > > > If you depend upon continuing support of python2 via the meta-python2 > layer, this is your call to arms. > > > > > > I was originally intending to abdicate any support after the 3.1 > "dunfell" release, but managed to somehow continue supporting it into the > crest of the 3.2 "gatesgarth" release. > > > > > > I will stop all support and actively refuse lo respond to any emails > and this layer will be dead and I have zero care in the world that it stops > being useful. I do not use it. I do not depend upon it. You are not paying > me to do this. You cannot pay me enough to do this. Period. Support > yourself. > > > > > > If this is not clear enough, I am happy to have a virtual video call > with you that you will not like. > > > > > > --moto-timo > > > > > > > > > > > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3135 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [yocto] Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period. 2020-10-24 20:22 ` Alexander Kanavin @ 2020-10-24 20:26 ` Zoran 2020-10-24 20:29 ` Alexander Kanavin 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Zoran @ 2020-10-24 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Alexander Kanavin Cc: Tim Orling, yocto, openembedded-core, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org I do get this. But if you deliver/target this message to me, you are barking under the wrong tree. Best Regards, Zoran On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 10:22 PM Alexander Kanavin <alex.kanavin@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am not complaining or bragging. I only want to set expectations, in public, and clearly. Otherwise some people will treat the project contributors as their unpaid contractors, and get upset when help is not given, or work is not done for them. > > Alex > > On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 at 19:38, Zoran Stojsavljevic <zoran.stojsavljevic@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Alex, >> >> Either do it voluntarily, either do not. >> >> Do not complain, or brag about it. >> >> We all understand Open Source rules, or we do not, do we??? >> >> Thank you, >> Zoran Stojsavljevic >> _______ >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 12:54 PM Zoran via lists.yoctoproject.org >> <zoran.stojsavljevic=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: >> > >> > > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly >> > > clear when I created the meta-python2 layer. >> > >> > WTH? Let me tell you how I really feel. >> > >> > I have absolutely no need for python2, as well. >> > >> > > You are not paying me to do this. You cannot pay me enough >> > > to do this. Period. Support yourself. >> > >> > What is the amount of cash for you, you'll consider it enough to >> > do that??? >> > >> > Better... What is the real message behind this/yours "announcement"? >> > >> > Thank you, >> > Zoran >> > _______ >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 2:48 AM Tim Orling <ticotimo@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly clear when I created the meta-python2 layer. >> > > >> > > If you depend upon continuing support of python2 via the meta-python2 layer, this is your call to arms. >> > > >> > > I was originally intending to abdicate any support after the 3.1 "dunfell" release, but managed to somehow continue supporting it into the crest of the 3.2 "gatesgarth" release. >> > > >> > > I will stop all support and actively refuse lo respond to any emails and this layer will be dead and I have zero care in the world that it stops being useful. I do not use it. I do not depend upon it. You are not paying me to do this. You cannot pay me enough to do this. Period. Support yourself. >> > > >> > > If this is not clear enough, I am happy to have a virtual video call with you that you will not like. >> > > >> > > --moto-timo >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [yocto] Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period. 2020-10-24 20:26 ` Zoran @ 2020-10-24 20:29 ` Alexander Kanavin 2020-10-24 21:51 ` [oe] " Alejandro Hernandez Samaniego 0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Alexander Kanavin @ 2020-10-24 20:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Zoran Stojsavljevic Cc: Tim Orling, yocto, openembedded-core, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2965 bytes --] Right, I guess my usage of 'you' was ambiguous. It was not targeted at you specifically, my apologies for that. Alex On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 at 22:26, Zoran Stojsavljevic < zoran.stojsavljevic@gmail.com> wrote: > I do get this. > > But if you deliver/target this message to me, you are barking under > the wrong tree. > > Best Regards, > Zoran > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 10:22 PM Alexander Kanavin > <alex.kanavin@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I am not complaining or bragging. I only want to set expectations, in > public, and clearly. Otherwise some people will treat the project > contributors as their unpaid contractors, and get upset when help is not > given, or work is not done for them. > > > > Alex > > > > On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 at 19:38, Zoran Stojsavljevic < > zoran.stojsavljevic@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Alex, > >> > >> Either do it voluntarily, either do not. > >> > >> Do not complain, or brag about it. > >> > >> We all understand Open Source rules, or we do not, do we??? > >> > >> Thank you, > >> Zoran Stojsavljevic > >> _______ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 12:54 PM Zoran via lists.yoctoproject.org > >> <zoran.stojsavljevic=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: > >> > > >> > > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly > >> > > clear when I created the meta-python2 layer. > >> > > >> > WTH? Let me tell you how I really feel. > >> > > >> > I have absolutely no need for python2, as well. > >> > > >> > > You are not paying me to do this. You cannot pay me enough > >> > > to do this. Period. Support yourself. > >> > > >> > What is the amount of cash for you, you'll consider it enough to > >> > do that??? > >> > > >> > Better... What is the real message behind this/yours "announcement"? > >> > > >> > Thank you, > >> > Zoran > >> > _______ > >> > > >> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 2:48 AM Tim Orling <ticotimo@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly clear > when I created the meta-python2 layer. > >> > > > >> > > If you depend upon continuing support of python2 via the > meta-python2 layer, this is your call to arms. > >> > > > >> > > I was originally intending to abdicate any support after the 3.1 > "dunfell" release, but managed to somehow continue supporting it into the > crest of the 3.2 "gatesgarth" release. > >> > > > >> > > I will stop all support and actively refuse lo respond to any > emails and this layer will be dead and I have zero care in the world that > it stops being useful. I do not use it. I do not depend upon it. You are > not paying me to do this. You cannot pay me enough to do this. Period. > Support yourself. > >> > > > >> > > If this is not clear enough, I am happy to have a virtual video > call with you that you will not like. > >> > > > >> > > --moto-timo > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 4312 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [oe] [yocto] Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period. 2020-10-24 20:29 ` Alexander Kanavin @ 2020-10-24 21:51 ` Alejandro Hernandez Samaniego 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Alejandro Hernandez Samaniego @ 2020-10-24 21:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Alexander Kanavin Cc: Zoran Stojsavljevic, Tim Orling, yocto, openembedded-core, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4115 bytes --] I don't believe this is about a certain amount of cash in any way and I think it's unfair to say it would be, and I also believe that this has been called out by Tim and others several times with little to no response on someone offering to help out and those discussions need to be accounted for, it isn't just about this last message. You've had enough time to port code to python3, and there has been an extra effort to maintain this layer for longer than it should have already. If you have a product based on python2, or you use it in some way, at this point, you need to allocate time to work on it and maintain it (to be honest you should have started to help out since several years ago), simple as that, there's nothing else to read between the lines. Again, as Alex said, "you" isn't targeted to anyone in specific, its simply referring to anyone using it (and probably complaining about support for it) Alejandro On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 at 20:29, Alexander Kanavin <alex.kanavin@gmail.com> wrote: > Right, I guess my usage of 'you' was ambiguous. It was not targeted at you > specifically, my apologies for that. > > Alex > > On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 at 22:26, Zoran Stojsavljevic < > zoran.stojsavljevic@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I do get this. >> >> But if you deliver/target this message to me, you are barking under >> the wrong tree. >> >> Best Regards, >> Zoran >> >> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 10:22 PM Alexander Kanavin >> <alex.kanavin@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > I am not complaining or bragging. I only want to set expectations, in >> public, and clearly. Otherwise some people will treat the project >> contributors as their unpaid contractors, and get upset when help is not >> given, or work is not done for them. >> > >> > Alex >> > >> > On Sat, 24 Oct 2020 at 19:38, Zoran Stojsavljevic < >> zoran.stojsavljevic@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Alex, >> >> >> >> Either do it voluntarily, either do not. >> >> >> >> Do not complain, or brag about it. >> >> >> >> We all understand Open Source rules, or we do not, do we??? >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Zoran Stojsavljevic >> >> _______ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 12:54 PM Zoran via lists.yoctoproject.org >> >> <zoran.stojsavljevic=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly >> >> > > clear when I created the meta-python2 layer. >> >> > >> >> > WTH? Let me tell you how I really feel. >> >> > >> >> > I have absolutely no need for python2, as well. >> >> > >> >> > > You are not paying me to do this. You cannot pay me enough >> >> > > to do this. Period. Support yourself. >> >> > >> >> > What is the amount of cash for you, you'll consider it enough to >> >> > do that??? >> >> > >> >> > Better... What is the real message behind this/yours "announcement"? >> >> > >> >> > Thank you, >> >> > Zoran >> >> > _______ >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 2:48 AM Tim Orling <ticotimo@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > I have absolutely no need for python2, I made this abundantly >> clear when I created the meta-python2 layer. >> >> > > >> >> > > If you depend upon continuing support of python2 via the >> meta-python2 layer, this is your call to arms. >> >> > > >> >> > > I was originally intending to abdicate any support after the 3.1 >> "dunfell" release, but managed to somehow continue supporting it into the >> crest of the 3.2 "gatesgarth" release. >> >> > > >> >> > > I will stop all support and actively refuse lo respond to any >> emails and this layer will be dead and I have zero care in the world that >> it stops being useful. I do not use it. I do not depend upon it. You are >> not paying me to do this. You cannot pay me enough to do this. Period. >> Support yourself. >> >> > > >> >> > > If this is not clear enough, I am happy to have a virtual video >> call with you that you will not like. >> >> > > >> >> > > --moto-timo >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 6949 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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* Re: [yocto] [OE-core] Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period. [not found] ` <16406E32EA0586FD.712@lists.yoctoproject.org> @ 2021-02-01 14:40 ` Martin Jansa 2021-02-01 23:19 ` Khem Raj 2021-02-02 9:33 ` Richard Purdie 0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Martin Jansa @ 2021-02-01 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Martin Jansa Cc: Tim Orling, Yocto-mailing-list, openembedded-core, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org, Anibal Limon [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1943 bytes --] On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 11:37 PM Martin Jansa via lists.yoctoproject.org <Martin.Jansa=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: > There were only a few changes needed between dunfell and gatesgarth to > keep it building and I feel guilty for sending half of them - and pinging > you on FB :). > > I don't have interest in python2, but it's still used by quite a few > components included in other layers are care about (e.g. qtwebengine in > meta-qt5, chromium in meta-browser - > https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=942720 is still > quite far from finished) and at LGE we maintain meta-ros > https://github.com/ros/meta-ros which contains support for ROS 1 Melodic > which is usually used with python2 and support ends May 2023 (together with > Ubuntu Bionic it's usually used with: http://wiki.ros.org/Distributions - > just today I've separated meta-ros-python2 layer with python2 recipes which > disappeared from oe-core in warrior and were never re-introduced in > meta-python2 (like nose and numpy). > > If you're looking for someone just keeping it buildable, then you can sign > me up. If it gets more annoying to maintain in future we can also split it > for pythonnative.bbclass and python recipe itself - to keep just the bare > minimum of recipes which are actively being used without all the other junk. > > Cheers, > Hi, can I get the write access to meta-python2 as mentioned above? I have 2 fixes to make it parse able with latest oe-core: https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-devel/message/89201 https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-devel/message/89200 to fix issues discussed in: https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/commit/fd6a007efa7cb45101a66f294af81d9d33bb3fab#commitcomment-46565284 https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/147477 https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/147514 Cheers, [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3150 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [yocto] [OE-core] Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period. 2021-02-01 14:40 ` [yocto] [OE-core] " Martin Jansa @ 2021-02-01 23:19 ` Khem Raj 2021-02-02 9:33 ` Richard Purdie 1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Khem Raj @ 2021-02-01 23:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Martin Jansa Cc: Anibal Limon, Tim Orling, Yocto-mailing-list, openembedded-core, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2105 bytes --] On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 6:40 AM Martin Jansa <Martin.Jansa@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 11:37 PM Martin Jansa via lists.yoctoproject.org > <Martin.Jansa=gmail.com@lists.yoctoproject.org> wrote: > >> There were only a few changes needed between dunfell and gatesgarth to >> keep it building and I feel guilty for sending half of them - and pinging >> you on FB :). >> >> I don't have interest in python2, but it's still used by quite a few >> components included in other layers are care about (e.g. qtwebengine in >> meta-qt5, chromium in meta-browser - >> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=942720 is still >> quite far from finished) and at LGE we maintain meta-ros >> https://github.com/ros/meta-ros which contains support for ROS 1 Melodic >> which is usually used with python2 and support ends May 2023 (together with >> Ubuntu Bionic it's usually used with: http://wiki.ros.org/Distributions >> - just today I've separated meta-ros-python2 layer with python2 recipes >> which disappeared from oe-core in warrior and were never re-introduced in >> meta-python2 (like nose and numpy). >> >> If you're looking for someone just keeping it buildable, then you can >> sign me up. If it gets more annoying to maintain in future we can also >> split it for pythonnative.bbclass and python recipe itself - to keep just >> the bare minimum of recipes which are actively being used without all the >> other junk. >> >> Cheers, >> > > Hi, > > can I get the write access to meta-python2 as mentioned above? > +1 > I have 2 fixes to make it parse able with latest oe-core: > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-devel/message/89201 > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-devel/message/89200 > > to fix issues discussed in: > > https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/commit/fd6a007efa7cb45101a66f294af81d9d33bb3fab#commitcomment-46565284 > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/147477 > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/147514 > > Cheers, > > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3894 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [yocto] [OE-core] Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period. 2021-02-01 14:40 ` [yocto] [OE-core] " Martin Jansa 2021-02-01 23:19 ` Khem Raj @ 2021-02-02 9:33 ` Richard Purdie 2021-02-02 10:11 ` Zoran 1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread From: Richard Purdie @ 2021-02-02 9:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Martin Jansa Cc: Tim Orling, Yocto-mailing-list, openembedded-core, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org, Anibal Limon On Mon, 2021-02-01 at 15:40 +0100, Martin Jansa wrote: > can I get the write access to meta-python2 as mentioned above? > > I have 2 fixes to make it parse able with latest oe-core: > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-devel/message/89201 > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-devel/message/89200 > > to fix issues discussed in: > https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/commit/fd6a007efa7cb45101a66f294af81d9d33bb3fab#commitcomment-46565284 > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/147477 > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/147514 This sounds like a good idea to me and I have admin right so I've given you access :) Cheers, Richard ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
* Re: [yocto] [OE-core] Let me tell you how I really feel. Zero filter. If you need meta-python2, you need to become a maintainer. Immediately. Period. 2021-02-02 9:33 ` Richard Purdie @ 2021-02-02 10:11 ` Zoran 0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread From: Zoran @ 2021-02-02 10:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard Purdie Cc: Martin Jansa, Tim Orling, Yocto-mailing-list, openembedded-core, openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org, Anibal Limon > This sounds like a good idea to me and I have admin > right so I've given you access :) +1 Zee _______ On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:33 AM Richard Purdie <richard.purdie@linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > On Mon, 2021-02-01 at 15:40 +0100, Martin Jansa wrote: > > can I get the write access to meta-python2 as mentioned above? > > > > I have 2 fixes to make it parse able with latest oe-core: > > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-devel/message/89201 > > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-devel/message/89200 > > > > to fix issues discussed in: > > https://github.com/openembedded/openembedded-core/commit/fd6a007efa7cb45101a66f294af81d9d33bb3fab#commitcomment-46565284 > > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/147477 > > https://lists.openembedded.org/g/openembedded-core/message/147514 > > This sounds like a good idea to me and I have admin right so I've given > you access :) > > Cheers, > > Richard > > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 14+ messages in thread
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