Re: ALSA homepage redesign

Re: ALSA homepage redesign

[Thomas Fjellstrom]

On April 22, 2002 08:12 am, you wrote:
> >> and testing a few changes), so it'll be clear that the API is finished
> >> and code is working.
> >
> >It is? Last time I tried using Rawmidi on an emu10k1 chip I got no sound.
> > I had a soundfont loaded, and tried with my own code and the rawmidi demo
> > source. Midi would play with the pmidi program. I've mentioned it once
> > before, nothing came of it, so Im mentioning it again. :)
>
> most people don't understand that there is a total of about 2 people
> working on ALSA at any one time. ALSA is not a large, distributed
> project team: it consists of Jaroslav and right now Takashi, with
> occasional contributions from driver writers and application
> developers who wade into the ALSA source code.
>
> when problems get reported with particular chipsets/audio interfaces,
> there is no large group of developers from which one might hope for a
> volunteer to study the bug. Takashi and Jaroslav both do good work
> tracking down such bugs when they have easy access to the hardware in
> question and some time, but for most everything else, the bug waits
> until someone steps up to fix it. the hope is that with incorporation
> into the 2.5 kernel source base, the set of developers who work on
> problems like yours will increase.
>

Ah. I didn't intend to sound too much like a child... I wasn't trying to 
force the issue, just let the developers know about it. Its what I usually do 
when I find a problem that I can't fix myself. I (hopefully) make sure that 
the right people know about it. 

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Re: ALSA homepage redesign

[Patrick Shirkey]

--- James Courtier-Dutton <James@superbug.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>
>Currently, xine (http://xine.sf.net) supports the 0.9.x alsa interface 
>but not the 0.5.x interface.
>I think we should have a section on the web site for the different 
>applications which support different alsa versions.
>
>Cheers
>James
>
>

This is already happening and I will add xine.

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Re: ALSA homepage redesign

[Patrick Shirkey]

I can add something but what is the official view from Jaroslav?



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--- Eric Dantan Rzewnicki <eric@zhevny.com> wrote:
>Hi Patrick,
>
>Thanks for doing this.
>
>The new page doesn't say anything about using the 0.9.x version rather
>than 0.5.x. Is it possible to have the main page make it clear that
>0.9.0beta12 is the version new users and developers should start with?
>
>-Eric Rz.
>
>Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>> 
>> I have now migrated the new ALSA homepage. It was redesigned to be more user friendly.
>> 
>> http://www.alsa-project.org
>> 
>> I will now add new links to the native applications page.
>> 
>> So far I have:
>> 
>> jack
>> Ardour
>> TiMidity
>> Glame
>> PD
>> Rosengarden
>> MusE
>> 
>> Are these correct and are there any others?
>> 
>> --

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Re: ALSA homepage redesign

[Jaroslav Kysela]

On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Patrick Shirkey wrote:

> I can add something but what is the official view from Jaroslav?

0.5.x release is no longer supported from the developer perspective. All 
our focus is in 0.9.x codebase. I'll release 0.9.0rc1 ASAP (after fixing
and testing a few changes), so it'll be clear that the API is finished and 
code is working.

It would be nice, if someone helps us with the doxygen documentation and 
cross-reference guide so we can release 0.9.0 final in a few months.

						Jaroslav

> --- Eric Dantan Rzewnicki <eric@zhevny.com> wrote:
> >Hi Patrick,
> >
> >Thanks for doing this.
> >
> >The new page doesn't say anything about using the 0.9.x version rather
> >than 0.5.x. Is it possible to have the main page make it clear that
> >0.9.0beta12 is the version new users and developers should start with?
> >
> >-Eric Rz.
> >
> >Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> >> 
> >> I have now migrated the new ALSA homepage. It was redesigned to be more user friendly.
> >> 
> >> http://www.alsa-project.org
> >> 
> >> I will now add new links to the native applications page.
> >> 
> >> So far I have:
> >> 
> >> jack
> >> Ardour
> >> TiMidity
> >> Glame
> >> PD
> >> Rosengarden
> >> MusE
> >> 
> >> Are these correct and are there any others?

-----
Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>
Linux Kernel Sound Maintainer
ALSA Project  http://www.alsa-project.org
SuSE Linux    http://www.suse.com

Re: ALSA homepage redesign

[Thomas Fjellstrom]

On April 22, 2002 05:10 am, you wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> > I can add something but what is the official view from Jaroslav?
>
> 0.5.x release is no longer supported from the developer perspective. All
> our focus is in 0.9.x codebase. I'll release 0.9.0rc1 ASAP (after fixing
> and testing a few changes), so it'll be clear that the API is finished and
> code is working.

It is? Last time I tried using Rawmidi on an emu10k1 chip I got no sound. I 
had a soundfont loaded, and tried with my own code and the rawmidi demo 
source. Midi would play with the pmidi program. I've mentioned it once 
before, nothing came of it, so Im mentioning it again. :)

> It would be nice, if someone helps us with the doxygen documentation and
> cross-reference guide so we can release 0.9.0 final in a few months.
>


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Re: ALSA homepage redesign

[Paul Davis]

>> and testing a few changes), so it'll be clear that the API is finished and
>> code is working.
>
>It is? Last time I tried using Rawmidi on an emu10k1 chip I got no sound. I 
>had a soundfont loaded, and tried with my own code and the rawmidi demo 
>source. Midi would play with the pmidi program. I've mentioned it once 
>before, nothing came of it, so Im mentioning it again. :)

most people don't understand that there is a total of about 2 people
working on ALSA at any one time. ALSA is not a large, distributed
project team: it consists of Jaroslav and right now Takashi, with
occasional contributions from driver writers and application
developers who wade into the ALSA source code.

when problems get reported with particular chipsets/audio interfaces,
there is no large group of developers from which one might hope for a
volunteer to study the bug. Takashi and Jaroslav both do good work
tracking down such bugs when they have easy access to the hardware in
question and some time, but for most everything else, the bug waits
until someone steps up to fix it. the hope is that with incorporation
into the 2.5 kernel source base, the set of developers who work on
problems like yours will increase.

--p

ALSA homepage redesign

[Patrick Shirkey]

I have now migrated the new ALSA homepage. It was redesigned to be more user friendly.

http://www.alsa-project.org

I will now add new links to the native applications page.

So far I have:

jack 
Ardour
TiMidity
Glame
PD
Rosengarden
MusE


Are these correct and are there any others?

--
Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd
For the discerning hardware connoisseur
Http://www.boosthardware.com
Http://www.boosthardware.com/LAU/Linux_Audio_Users_Guide/

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Re: ALSA homepage redesign

[Maarten de Boer]

Hello Patrick, 

Looks very nice.

Am I correctly assuming that you will be the maintainer of the ALSA pages
from now on?

Could you add the following alsa 0.9 applications I wrote:

http://www.iua.upf.es/~mdeboer/projects/tapiir/

http://www.iua.upf.es/~mdeboer/projects/aconnectgui/

http://www.iua.upf.es/~mdeboer/projects/alsamixergui/

Thanks,

Maarten

Re: ALSA homepage redesign

[Andy Wingo]

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Patrick Shirkey wrote:

> I have now migrated the new ALSA homepage. It was redesigned to be more user friendly.

Excellent!

> I will now add new links to the native applications page.
[...]
> Are these correct and are there any others?

GStreamer has an alsa 0.9 plugin, fwiw.

regards,

wingo.

Re: ALSA homepage redesign

[Eric Dantan Rzewnicki]

Hi Patrick,

Thanks for doing this.

The new page doesn't say anything about using the 0.9.x version rather
than 0.5.x. Is it possible to have the main page make it clear that
0.9.0beta12 is the version new users and developers should start with?

-Eric Rz.

Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> 
> I have now migrated the new ALSA homepage. It was redesigned to be more user friendly.
> 
> http://www.alsa-project.org
> 
> I will now add new links to the native applications page.
> 
> So far I have:
> 
> jack
> Ardour
> TiMidity
> Glame
> PD
> Rosengarden
> MusE
> 
> Are these correct and are there any others?
> 
> --

Re: ALSA homepage redesign

[James Courtier-Dutton]

Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:

>Hi Patrick,
>
>Thanks for doing this.
>
>The new page doesn't say anything about using the 0.9.x version rather
>than 0.5.x. Is it possible to have the main page make it clear that
>0.9.0beta12 is the version new users and developers should start with?
>
>-Eric Rz.
>
>Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>  
>
>>I have now migrated the new ALSA homepage. It was redesigned to be more user friendly.
>>
>>http://www.alsa-project.org
>>
>>I will now add new links to the native applications page.
>>
>>So far I have:
>>
>>jack
>>Ardour
>>TiMidity
>>Glame
>>PD
>>Rosengarden
>>MusE
>>
>>Are these correct and are there any others?
>>
>>--
>>    
>>

Currently, xine (http://xine.sf.net) supports the 0.9.x alsa interface 
but not the 0.5.x interface.
I think we should have a section on the web site for the different 
applications which support different alsa versions.

Cheers
James

Re: ALSA homepage redesign

[joy ping]

nice,

mplayer has also alsa9 and alsa5 plugins.

On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Patrick Shirkey wrote:

> I have now migrated the new ALSA homepage. It was redesigned to be more user friendly.
>
> http://www.alsa-project.org
>
> I will now add new links to the native applications page.
>
> So far I have:
>
> jack
> Ardour
> TiMidity
> Glame
> PD
> Rosengarden
> MusE
>
>
> Are these correct and are there any others?
>
> --
> Patrick Shirkey - Boost Hardware Ltd
> For the discerning hardware connoisseur
> Http://www.boosthardware.com
> Http://www.boosthardware.com/LAU/Linux_Audio_Users_Guide/
>
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