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From: Daniel Whicker <daniel.whicker@solidsystems.com>
To: linux-lvm@sistina.com
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Backup costs (was: LVM reimplementationre)
Date: Wed Feb  6 13:39:01 2002	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1013024531.21447.19.camel@Daniel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202061338480.13203-100000@dragon.inside.ntisys.com>

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Ben,
	I think you missed a very important aspect.  The actual investment of
the tape drives.  A SDLT or LTO drive is going to run from about $4000
on up.  According to datacomm warehouse, a HP 230 external LTO drives
runs $3700.  An SDLT drive runs $4300.  You can't compare just the media
costs with that of the drive.  Let's consider a 1TB of data.

SDLT:
$4300 + (10 tapes * $50) = $4800

LTO:
$3700 + (10 tapes * $130) = $5000

AIT2:
$2800 + (20 tapes * $90) = $4600

IDE:
10  Drives * 270 = $2700

DDS4:
$900 + (50 tapes * $24) = $2100

From these numbers (using DataComm Warehouse pricing), you can see that
to backup 1TB, the IDE drives are actually the second cheapest.  And
from a raw performance point of view, they far exceed all the other
alternatives from a random access standpoint, and they are comparable to
even LTO from a transfer rate point of view.

Sorry... had to address this point.

On Wed, 2002-02-06 at 13:14, Benjamin Scott wrote:
>   Here are some prices from a recent Datacomm Warehouse catalog:
> 
>   Item            GB   Cost  $/GB
>   --------------  ---  ----  ----
>   IDE HDD         100   270  2.70
>   AIT2             50    90  1.80
>   SuperDLT        110   150  1.36
>   LTO Ultrium     100   130  1.30
>   DDS-4            20    24  1.20
> 
>   As you can see, hard disk is actually the most expensive media, not the
> least.  This whole "hard disks are cheaper" thing is a myth propagated by
> people who have never actually looked at the numbers.


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  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-06 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-31 13:54 [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementation ready for beta testing Steve Pratt
2002-01-31 19:52 ` Steve Pratt
2002-01-31 12:52 ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01  3:47   ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01  3:55   ` [Evms-devel] " Arjan van de Ven
2002-02-01  9:55     ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-01-31 13:09     ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01  4:04       ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01  4:13       ` [linux-lvm] " Arjan van de Ven
2002-02-01 10:12         ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-01-31 13:35         ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01  4:31           ` [linux-lvm] " Joe Thornber
2002-02-01  5:06         ` [linux-lvm] Re: [Evms-devel] " Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-01 11:05           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-01  8:32         ` [linux-lvm] " Alan Cox
2002-02-01 14:44           ` Alan Cox
2002-02-01  8:59           ` [linux-lvm] Re: [Evms-devel] " Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-01 14:58             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-01 16:01   ` [evms-devel] [linux-lvm] " Kevin Corry
2002-02-01 21:59     ` Kevin Corry
2002-01-31 21:51     ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-03  6:22       ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01 17:17     ` Alan Cox
2002-02-01 23:30       ` Alan Cox
2002-02-02  7:40     ` Andrew Clausen
2002-02-02 13:39       ` Andrew Clausen
2002-02-02 13:30       ` Alan Cox
2002-02-02 19:42         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-31 14:05 ` [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementationre ady " Jeff Layton
2002-02-01  3:29   ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
2002-02-01  9:43     ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-05  8:04     ` James Hawtin
2002-02-05  8:09       ` Patrick Caulfield
2002-02-05 11:13       ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-05 12:28         ` [linux-lvm] (OT) Backups (was Re: LVM reimplementationre ady for beta testing...) Chad C. Walstrom
2002-02-06 13:13       ` [linux-lvm] Backup costs (was: LVM reimplementationre) Benjamin Scott
2002-02-06 13:39         ` Daniel Whicker [this message]
2002-02-06 13:46           ` James Mello
2002-02-06 14:35             ` Anders Widman
2002-02-07  3:01               ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07  3:17                 ` Petro
2002-02-07  4:34                   ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07  7:19                     ` Petro
2002-02-07  7:54                       ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07  3:55               ` Dieter Stueken
2002-02-06 13:46         ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-06 13:48         ` Theo Van Dinter
2002-02-06 15:45           ` Austin Gonyou
2002-02-06 13:51         ` Petro
2002-02-06 13:52         ` Kirby C. Bohling
2002-02-06 13:55         ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-06 14:03           ` James Mello
2002-02-06 20:03             ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-06 20:08               ` James Mello
2002-02-06 20:11                 ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-07  3:10                   ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07  4:53                     ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-07  5:31                       ` James Hawtin
2002-02-07 17:05                         ` Wolfgang Weisselberg
2002-02-08 20:04                           ` James Hawtin
2002-02-07  3:03           ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07  3:17             ` Petro
2002-02-07  4:15               ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-12  1:00             ` Marc MERLIN
2002-01-31 15:19 ` [Evms-devel] Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementation ready for beta testing Andrew Clausen
2002-01-31 21:18   ` Andrew Clausen
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2002-02-06 21:10 [linux-lvm] Backup costs (was: LVM reimplementationre) Richard Barbara
2002-02-07 10:24 ` Scott Laird

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