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From: Jeff Layton <laytonjb@bellsouth.net>
To: linux-lvm@sistina.com
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Backup costs (was: LVM reimplementationre)
Date: Wed Feb  6 20:11:02 2002	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C61E289.DD2CFF54@bellsouth.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.GSO.4.21.0202062006560.17353-100000@psasolar.private.psa.pencom.com

James Mello wrote:

> > > Petabytes are another matter entirely. If you must absolutely have that
> > > much data backed up, you start looking at more exotic solutions. Backing
> > > up solely to disk is *way* to expensive, hence the wonderful, but of
> > > poorly implemented idea of HSM.... Disk and tape :)
> >
> > Yes, HSM has never panned out the way it was supposed to.
> > However, try backing up Petabytes with tape in a reasonable
> > amount of time. While I've never configure such a system,
> > the numbers from systems I have seen indicate that disk is
> > much cheaper than tape (even if tape is a feasible solution
> > because of speed).
>
> HSM systems that I've seen work generally used some form of nearline disk
> storage and an *HUGE* array of tape drives to write too (100+ tape
> drives). The data went to near line storage (which they only held for
> like 24 hours) and was then written to the tape. The deal is, the more
> data you *must* save, the more money you *must* spend.

Agreed.

I've never had good luck keeping HSM systems up
for very long. The ones I have experience with liked to lock
up at least once a week and the software never liked to be
restarted - had to reboot the whole box.

Jeff


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  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-06 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-31 13:54 [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementation ready for beta testing Steve Pratt
2002-01-31 19:52 ` Steve Pratt
2002-01-31 12:52 ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01  3:47   ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01  3:55   ` [Evms-devel] " Arjan van de Ven
2002-02-01  9:55     ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-01-31 13:09     ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01  4:04       ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01  4:13       ` [linux-lvm] " Arjan van de Ven
2002-02-01 10:12         ` Arjan van de Ven
2002-01-31 13:35         ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01  4:31           ` [linux-lvm] " Joe Thornber
2002-02-01  5:06         ` [linux-lvm] Re: [Evms-devel] " Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-01 11:05           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-01  8:32         ` [linux-lvm] " Alan Cox
2002-02-01 14:44           ` Alan Cox
2002-02-01  8:59           ` [linux-lvm] Re: [Evms-devel] " Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-01 14:58             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-01 16:01   ` [evms-devel] [linux-lvm] " Kevin Corry
2002-02-01 21:59     ` Kevin Corry
2002-01-31 21:51     ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-03  6:22       ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01 17:17     ` Alan Cox
2002-02-01 23:30       ` Alan Cox
2002-02-02  7:40     ` Andrew Clausen
2002-02-02 13:39       ` Andrew Clausen
2002-02-02 13:30       ` Alan Cox
2002-02-02 19:42         ` Alan Cox
2002-01-31 14:05 ` [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementationre ady " Jeff Layton
2002-02-01  3:29   ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
2002-02-01  9:43     ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-05  8:04     ` James Hawtin
2002-02-05  8:09       ` Patrick Caulfield
2002-02-05 11:13       ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-05 12:28         ` [linux-lvm] (OT) Backups (was Re: LVM reimplementationre ady for beta testing...) Chad C. Walstrom
2002-02-06 13:13       ` [linux-lvm] Backup costs (was: LVM reimplementationre) Benjamin Scott
2002-02-06 13:39         ` Daniel Whicker
2002-02-06 13:46           ` James Mello
2002-02-06 14:35             ` Anders Widman
2002-02-07  3:01               ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07  3:17                 ` Petro
2002-02-07  4:34                   ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07  7:19                     ` Petro
2002-02-07  7:54                       ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07  3:55               ` Dieter Stueken
2002-02-06 13:46         ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-06 13:48         ` Theo Van Dinter
2002-02-06 15:45           ` Austin Gonyou
2002-02-06 13:51         ` Petro
2002-02-06 13:52         ` Kirby C. Bohling
2002-02-06 13:55         ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-06 14:03           ` James Mello
2002-02-06 20:03             ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-06 20:08               ` James Mello
2002-02-06 20:11                 ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2002-02-07  3:10                   ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07  4:53                     ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-07  5:31                       ` James Hawtin
2002-02-07 17:05                         ` Wolfgang Weisselberg
2002-02-08 20:04                           ` James Hawtin
2002-02-07  3:03           ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07  3:17             ` Petro
2002-02-07  4:15               ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-12  1:00             ` Marc MERLIN
2002-01-31 15:19 ` [Evms-devel] Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementation ready for beta testing Andrew Clausen
2002-01-31 21:18   ` Andrew Clausen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-06 21:10 [linux-lvm] Backup costs (was: LVM reimplementationre) Richard Barbara
2002-02-07 10:24 ` Scott Laird

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