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From: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
To: Szakacsits Szabolcs <szaka@sienet.hu>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] strict VM overcommit for stock 2.4
Date: 18 Jul 2002 10:42:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1027014161.1086.123.camel@sinai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0207181806220.30902-100000@divine.city.tvnet.hu>

On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 09:36, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote:

> This is what I would do first [make sure you don't hit any resource,
> malloc, kernel memory mapping, etc limits -- this is a simulation that
> must eat all available memory continually]:
> main(){void *x;while(1)if(x=malloc(4096))memset(x,666,4096);}
> 
> When the above used up all the memory try to ssh/login to the box as
> root and clean up the mess. Can you do it?

Three points:

- with strict overcommit and the "allocations must meet backing store"
rule (policy #3) the above can never use all physical memory

- if your point is that a rogue user can use all of the systems memory,
then you need per-user resource accounting.

- the point of this patch is to not use MORE memory than the system
has.  I say nothing else except that I am trying to avoid OOM and push
the allocation failures into the allocations themselves.  Assuming the
accounting is correct (and it seems to be) then Alan and I have
succeeded.

	Robert Love


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From: Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>
To: Szakacsits Szabolcs <szaka@sienet.hu>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] strict VM overcommit for stock 2.4
Date: 18 Jul 2002 10:42:41 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1027014161.1086.123.camel@sinai> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0207181806220.30902-100000@divine.city.tvnet.hu>

On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 09:36, Szakacsits Szabolcs wrote:

> This is what I would do first [make sure you don't hit any resource,
> malloc, kernel memory mapping, etc limits -- this is a simulation that
> must eat all available memory continually]:
> main(){void *x;while(1)if(x=malloc(4096))memset(x,666,4096);}
> 
> When the above used up all the memory try to ssh/login to the box as
> root and clean up the mess. Can you do it?

Three points:

- with strict overcommit and the "allocations must meet backing store"
rule (policy #3) the above can never use all physical memory

- if your point is that a rogue user can use all of the systems memory,
then you need per-user resource accounting.

- the point of this patch is to not use MORE memory than the system
has.  I say nothing else except that I am trying to avoid OOM and push
the allocation failures into the allocations themselves.  Assuming the
accounting is correct (and it seems to be) then Alan and I have
succeeded.

	Robert Love

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  reply	other threads:[~2002-07-18 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-11 22:28 [PATCH] strict VM overcommit Robert Love
2002-07-12 17:30 ` [PATCH] strict VM overcommit for stock 2.4 Robert Love
2002-07-12 17:30   ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 15:22   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 15:22     ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 16:31     ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 16:31       ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 16:36       ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 16:36         ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 17:42         ` Robert Love [this message]
2002-07-18 17:42           ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 17:25           ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 17:25             ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 17:31             ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 17:31               ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 18:32               ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 18:32                 ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 19:58               ` Alan Cox
2002-07-18 19:58                 ` Alan Cox
2002-07-18 18:01                 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 18:01                   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 18:52                 ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 18:52                   ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 20:52                   ` Alan Cox
2002-07-18 20:52                     ` Alan Cox
2002-07-19  6:17                 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-19  6:17                   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 22:22               ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-18 22:22                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-19  7:47                 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-19  7:47                   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 18:28             ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 18:28               ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 17:50               ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 17:50                 ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 19:25                 ` stoffel
2002-07-18 19:25                   ` stoffel
2002-07-19  5:52                   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-19  5:52                     ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-18 18:56               ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 18:56                 ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 19:03                 ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 19:03                   ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 19:19                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 19:19                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 19:22                     ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 19:22                       ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 20:49                       ` Alan Cox
2002-07-18 20:49                         ` Alan Cox
2002-07-19 16:49                   ` Amit Shah
2002-07-19 17:16                     ` Robert Love
2002-07-20  5:02                       ` Amit Shah
2002-07-18 19:10                 ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 19:10                   ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 19:35                   ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 19:35                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 19:41                     ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2002-07-18 19:41                       ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2002-07-18 20:23                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 20:23                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2002-07-18 20:43                         ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2002-07-18 20:43                           ` Daniel Gryniewicz
2002-07-19  7:30                   ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-19  7:30                     ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-19 18:06                     ` Robert Love
2002-07-19 18:06                       ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 22:24             ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-18 22:24               ` Rik van Riel
2002-07-18 22:30               ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 22:30                 ` Robert Love
2002-07-18 22:08 ` [PATCH] strict VM overcommit Adrian Bunk
2002-07-18 22:27   ` Robert Love
2002-07-19 11:02     ` Adrian Bunk
2002-07-20  0:32   ` Alan Cox
2002-07-21  9:10     ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-21 13:32       ` Alan Cox
2002-07-21 12:46         ` Adrian Bunk
2002-07-21 14:33           ` Jos Hulzink
2002-07-22  0:43             ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-21 16:46           ` Alan Cox
2002-07-21 15:23         ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-21 19:01           ` Alan Cox
2002-07-22  8:08             ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-22 13:00               ` Alan Cox
2002-07-22 12:45                 ` Hugh Dickins
2002-07-22 14:01                   ` Alan Cox
2002-07-22  1:12           ` Thunder from the hill
2002-07-22  8:03             ` Szakacsits Szabolcs
2002-07-22 10:23               ` Thunder from the hill

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