From: Pat LaVarre <p.lavarre@ieee.org>
To: dmitrik@users.sourceforge.net
Cc: usb-storage@one-eyed-alien.net, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
stern@rowland.harvard.edu, mdharm-scsi@one-eyed-alien.net,
patmans@us.ibm.com, james.bottomley@steeleye.com,
ronald@kuetemeier.com, idan@idanso.dyndns.org
Subject: Re: [usb-storage] Re: [PATCH] fix Sony USB mass storage - pass larger receive buffer
Date: 13 Nov 2003 19:10:34 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1068775834.2851.321.camel@patrh9> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1068768796.3fb41e1c8d075@webmail.netregistry.net>
> * Define an absolute bare minimum safe subset of SCSI commands and
> fall back to it whenever you see a non-compliant device like this one.
Did we find a kind of reset that worked with this device?
> Note that Win98 did not support my Sony Handycam Memory Stick out of
> the box, I had to install drivers from Sony installation CD.
> Obviously these drivers do not attempt to issue any commands that
> the device does not understand. XP did detect Sony out of the box but
> it is very likely that it still loaded proprietary Sony driver based
> on USB Device/Vendor ID.
I agree.
I guess this from seeing bInterfaceSubClass = xFF = Formally Reserved
But Informally Vendor Specific SCSI. That pushes the bInterfaceClass
...SubClass ...Protocol outside of the tuples that Microsoft blesses as
generic usb storage i.e. outside of the set x 08 (02|05|06) 50.
> Also note: the device does not claim any SCSI compliance as indicated
> by reserved values in its device descriptor and by scsi version being
> set to 0 in reply to INQUIRY.
Aye.
> IMHO the solution is either or both of:
> * Blacklist it
Can we blacklist mode sense from bInterfaceSubClass = xFF?
That way we don't break as many write-protectable devices as if we
blacklisted mode sense always?
I remember today already I once proposed blacklisting only
bInterfaceSubClass = xFF, Matt said no once, I don't think I yet grok
Matt's no.
Can we blacklist only xFF if I wrote the patch myself?
I've shipped generic devices that I think comply: that gives me a
personal interest in having their write-protect work, no matter if
connected via USB.
Pat LaVarre
P.S.
> Also note: the device does not claim any SCSI compliance...
> miracle it worked at all.
Aye. Myself, I'd like to get an academic grant to study why computers
work. As far as I can tell, they shouldn't. Fundamentally chaotic
design. Try flipping a bit in an instruction stream, and watch what
happens.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-11-14 2:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-11-12 23:50 [PATCH] fix Sony USB mass storage - pass larger receive buffer Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13 0:09 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 0:13 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13 0:44 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13 1:56 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 14:54 ` [usb-storage] " Alan Stern
2003-11-13 16:21 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 17:09 ` Alan Stern
2003-11-13 17:24 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:04 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13 18:15 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:22 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:26 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:37 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 19:13 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 19:30 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 22:03 ` Alan Stern
2003-11-13 23:40 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 23:51 ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-14 0:16 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 1:04 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 1:10 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 1:13 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 22:01 ` Alan Stern
2003-11-13 23:37 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 0:24 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-14 1:54 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 2:08 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 2:24 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-17 21:38 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-17 22:00 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-17 23:36 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 1:03 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 23:44 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 0:13 ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-14 0:55 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 1:13 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 2:02 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 2:10 ` Pat LaVarre [this message]
2003-11-14 2:19 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 2:38 ` [usb-storage] mode sense blacklist how Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 2:44 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 17:27 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 17:57 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 3:11 ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-14 19:41 ` Pat LaVarre
[not found] ` <20031114153607.A7207@beaverton.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <20031116121039.A13224@beaverton.ibm.com>
2003-11-17 20:14 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-19 12:55 ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-19 16:34 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-19 17:02 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-19 23:34 ` Douglas Gilbert
2003-11-20 16:32 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-21 1:17 ` SG_IO ioctl (was: mode sense blacklist how) Douglas Gilbert
2003-11-21 3:18 ` Willem Riede
2003-11-21 20:51 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:07 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:14 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:31 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:09 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-21 21:29 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-20 14:06 ` [usb-storage] mode sense blacklist how Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-20 15:57 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 1:06 ` [usb-storage] Re: [PATCH] fix Sony USB mass storage - pass larger receive buffer Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 16:14 ` Alan Stern
2003-11-14 17:29 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 17:50 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 2:02 ` Douglas Gilbert
2003-11-14 21:45 ` [usb-storage] " Pat LaVarre
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2003-11-14 2:25 Andries.Brouwer
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