From: Pat LaVarre <p.lavarre@ieee.org>
To: dougg@torque.net
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: SG_IO ioctl (was: mode sense blacklist how)
Date: 21 Nov 2003 14:29:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1069450179.15688.35.camel@patrh9> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3FBD679C.5010405@torque.net>
Offline kindly I'm reminded to distinguish a compelling third "pro" for
SG_IO via block/scsi_ioctl.c:
> > Designing an lk 2.6 user app to recommend more prominent device names
> > like /dev/hdd and /dev/scd0 in place of less prominent /dev/sg$n names
> > thereby steers people into using the less robust pass thru of SG_IO via
> > block/scsi_ioctl.c.
>
> Pat,
> Well it's a trade-off. If you use the SG_IO in
> the block layer then:
>
> Pros:
+ -- - works with ide-cd kernels, not just with ide-scsi kernels
> - convenience (for block devices)
> - no device mapping problems (sd <-> sg) **
> Cons:
> - no help for "non-block" devices: tapes, enclosures,
> OSD, etc
> - inherit block layer policy (e.g. 128 KB xfer limit,
> direct IO alignment)
> - unable to interrupt a SCSI command in progress with
> a signal
> - associated ioctls are dummies or not there, hence unable
> to reset device/bus/host (for example)
> - no driver or host error reporting (only SCSI status)
>
> I'm sure more "cons" will come to light and some will be
> addressed. There is probably enough there already to give
> the cdrecord author pause for thought.
Pat LaVarre
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-11-21 21:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-11-12 23:50 [PATCH] fix Sony USB mass storage - pass larger receive buffer Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13 0:09 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 0:13 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13 0:44 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13 1:56 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 14:54 ` [usb-storage] " Alan Stern
2003-11-13 16:21 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 17:09 ` Alan Stern
2003-11-13 17:24 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:04 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13 18:15 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:22 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:26 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:37 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 19:13 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 19:30 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 22:03 ` Alan Stern
2003-11-13 23:40 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 23:51 ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-14 0:16 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 1:04 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 1:10 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 1:13 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 22:01 ` Alan Stern
2003-11-13 23:37 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 0:24 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-14 1:54 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 2:08 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 2:24 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-17 21:38 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-17 22:00 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-17 23:36 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 1:03 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 23:44 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 0:13 ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-14 0:55 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 1:13 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 2:02 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 2:10 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 2:19 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 2:38 ` [usb-storage] mode sense blacklist how Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 2:44 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 17:27 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 17:57 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 3:11 ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-14 19:41 ` Pat LaVarre
[not found] ` <20031114153607.A7207@beaverton.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <20031116121039.A13224@beaverton.ibm.com>
2003-11-17 20:14 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-19 12:55 ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-19 16:34 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-19 17:02 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-19 23:34 ` Douglas Gilbert
2003-11-20 16:32 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-21 1:17 ` SG_IO ioctl (was: mode sense blacklist how) Douglas Gilbert
2003-11-21 3:18 ` Willem Riede
2003-11-21 20:51 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:07 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:14 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:31 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:09 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-21 21:29 ` Pat LaVarre [this message]
2003-11-20 14:06 ` [usb-storage] mode sense blacklist how Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-20 15:57 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 1:06 ` [usb-storage] Re: [PATCH] fix Sony USB mass storage - pass larger receive buffer Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 16:14 ` Alan Stern
2003-11-14 17:29 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 17:50 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 2:02 ` Douglas Gilbert
2003-11-14 21:45 ` [usb-storage] " Pat LaVarre
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