From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
To: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>
Subject: Re: can device drivers return non-ram via vm_ops->nopage?
Date: 21 Mar 2004 23:56:40 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1079931403.5345.74.camel@mulgrave> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040322044615.GC2045@holomorphy.com>
On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 23:46, William Lee Irwin III wrote:
> Okay, this is bad news for sound (and possibly some graphics) drivers
> on PA-RISC, since this mapping of coherent areas into userspace is
> exactly what they're trying to do for the device interfaces they
> export to the user.
>
> Are you seeing breakage there, or are the drivers doing this
> unused on PA-RISC?
Well, our older sound drivers have never worked since ALSA (they hang
off the GSC bus which ALSA doesn't have an abstraction for). Mostly we
use serial console, and a HP specific thing called a STI framebuffer for
video.
The problems I describe only occur if you try to mmap coherent memory.
mmaping streaming memory is fine.
But, I would expect that any arch with a virtually indexed cache would
have similar problems: there may be many address aliases in the cache
and the DMA controller probably only knows about one of them.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-22 4:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-20 13:30 can device drivers return non-ram via vm_ops->nopage? Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 14:40 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 15:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 15:27 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 15:44 ` Russell King
2004-03-20 15:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 16:15 ` Russell King
2004-03-20 16:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 16:57 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 17:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 19:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 15:58 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-03-20 16:09 ` Russell King
2004-03-20 19:44 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-03-20 22:23 ` Russell King
2004-03-20 22:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 23:54 ` Russell King
2004-03-21 0:22 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-03-22 4:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-22 18:23 ` Richard Curnow
2004-03-21 0:23 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-21 9:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-21 10:39 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-03-22 4:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-20 20:13 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-20 20:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 20:50 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 22:26 ` Russell King
2004-03-20 22:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-21 20:45 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 20:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-03-21 20:57 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 21:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-21 22:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 22:23 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 22:23 ` Russell King
2004-03-21 22:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 22:42 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 23:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 22:51 ` Russell King
2004-03-21 23:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 23:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-21 23:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 23:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-21 23:58 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 0:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-22 3:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-23 17:59 ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-23 17:58 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-23 18:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 0:02 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-22 3:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-22 0:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22 0:20 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 0:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22 4:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-21 23:45 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 0:23 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 0:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22 1:28 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 3:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 4:41 ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22 4:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 4:56 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2004-03-22 5:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-22 11:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-22 12:05 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 12:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-22 9:30 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 15:04 ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22 15:15 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 15:27 ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22 21:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-22 22:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22 22:35 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 23:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-23 0:22 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-23 2:07 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-23 9:28 ` Russell King
2004-03-23 9:34 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-23 10:04 ` Russell King
2004-03-23 10:05 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-23 11:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-23 11:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-23 11:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-23 12:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-23 12:40 ` Russell King
2004-03-23 15:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-23 15:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-23 15:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-23 15:50 ` Russell King
2004-03-23 22:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-25 20:25 ` Russell King
2004-03-28 10:17 ` Russell King
2004-03-23 12:49 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 23:19 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 23:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-23 2:26 ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22 6:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 17:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-20 17:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 18:22 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-21 3:13 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-03-21 6:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-03-21 7:00 ` Chris Wedgwood
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