From: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>
To: rmk@arm.linux.org.uk, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@suse.cz>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: can device drivers return non-ram via vm_ops->nopage?
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 16:23:25 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040321002325.GS2045@holomorphy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040320235445.B24744@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 11:54:45PM +0000, Russell King wrote:
> The issues are:
> 1. ALSA wants to mmap the buffer used to transfer data to/from the
> card into user space. This buffer may be direct-mapped RAM,
> memory allocated via dma_alloc_coherent(), an on-device buffer,
> or anything else.
> The user space mapping must likewise be DMA-coherent.
> Currently, ALSA just does virt_to_page() on whatever address it
> feels like in its nopage() function, which is obviously not
> acceptable for two out of the three specific cases above.
> 2. ALSA wants to _coherently_ share data between the kernel-side
> drivers, and user space ALSA library, mainly the DMA buffer
> head/tail pointers so both kernel space and user space knows
> when the buffer is full/empty.
Okay, so we've got these pinned down. So I've got two small ideas
(I mentioned them earlier, but maybe vger dropped the message):
(a) I think prefaulting should work for that in general, though the API
doesn't fit the extra things needed for e.g. DMA. Is there some way we
could extend remap_area_pages() (or provide an alternative interface to
similar functionality with the missing pieces included) to do the extra
things needed to make the coherency and/or DMA (or whatever else is
missing) work?
(b) Alternatively, would dma_coherent_to_pfn() instead of
dma_coherent_to_page() and making ->nopage() return pfns help salvage
the method using non-cachable and/or dma-coherent page protections in
vma->vm_page_prot?
-- wli
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-03-21 0:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-03-20 13:30 can device drivers return non-ram via vm_ops->nopage? Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 14:40 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 15:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 15:27 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 15:44 ` Russell King
2004-03-20 15:57 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 16:15 ` Russell King
2004-03-20 16:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 16:57 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 17:48 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 19:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 15:58 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-03-20 16:09 ` Russell King
2004-03-20 19:44 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-03-20 22:23 ` Russell King
2004-03-20 22:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 23:54 ` Russell King
2004-03-21 0:22 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-03-22 4:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-22 18:23 ` Richard Curnow
2004-03-21 0:23 ` William Lee Irwin III [this message]
2004-03-21 9:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-03-21 10:39 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2004-03-22 4:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-20 20:13 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-20 20:28 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 20:50 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 22:26 ` Russell King
2004-03-20 22:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-21 20:45 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 20:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-03-21 20:57 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 21:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-21 22:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 22:23 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 22:23 ` Russell King
2004-03-21 22:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 22:42 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-21 23:06 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 22:51 ` Russell King
2004-03-21 23:09 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 23:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-21 23:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-21 23:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-21 23:58 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 0:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-22 3:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-23 17:59 ` Andy Whitcroft
2004-03-23 17:58 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-23 18:11 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 0:02 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-22 3:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-22 0:10 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22 0:20 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 0:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22 4:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-21 23:45 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 0:23 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 0:29 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22 1:28 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 3:45 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 4:41 ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22 4:46 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 4:56 ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22 5:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-22 11:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-22 12:05 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 12:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-22 9:30 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 15:04 ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22 15:15 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 15:27 ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22 21:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-22 22:18 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-22 22:35 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 23:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-23 0:22 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-23 2:07 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-23 9:28 ` Russell King
2004-03-23 9:34 ` David Woodhouse
2004-03-23 10:04 ` Russell King
2004-03-23 10:05 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-23 11:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-23 11:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-23 11:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-23 12:34 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-23 12:40 ` Russell King
2004-03-23 15:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-23 15:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-23 15:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-23 15:50 ` Russell King
2004-03-23 22:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-03-25 20:25 ` Russell King
2004-03-28 10:17 ` Russell King
2004-03-23 12:49 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-22 23:19 ` Russell King
2004-03-22 23:35 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-03-23 2:26 ` James Bottomley
2004-03-22 6:36 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 17:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-20 17:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 18:22 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-21 3:13 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-03-21 6:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-03-21 7:00 ` Chris Wedgwood
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