From: Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano <nando@ccrma.Stanford.EDU>
To: "The Linux Audio Developers' Mailing List"
<linux-audio-dev@music.columbia.edu>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch
Date: 21 Jul 2004 10:49:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1090432198.29593.18.camel@cmn37.stanford.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040721125352.7e8e95a1@mango.fruits.de>
On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 03:53, Florian Schmidt wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:32:37 -0400
> Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com> wrote:
> > Yes, this is important. One problem I had recently with the Via EPIA
> > board was that unless 2D acceleration was disabled by setting 'Option
> > "NoAccel"' in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, overloading the X server would
> > cause interrupts from the soundcard to be completely disabled for tens
> > of milliseconds. Users should keep in mind that by using 2D or 3D
> > hardware acceleration in X, you are allowing the X server to directly
> > access hardware, which can have very bad results if the driver is
> > buggy. I am not sure the kernel can do anything about this.
>
> Hi,
>
> interesting that you mention the Xserver. I use a dual graphics card setup atm
> [Nvidia GF3 TI and some matrox pci card]. The nvidia card seems to work flawlessly
> even with HW accelleration [i use nvidias evil binary only drivers]. The matrox
> card OTH disturbs the soundcard severely. Whenever i have activity on my second
> monitor i get sound artefacts in jack's output [no cracklling, it's rather as
> if the volume is set to 0 for short moments and then back to normal]. There's
> a certain chance that this artefact produces an xrun. I suppose it's because
> the card is on the pci bus.
The mga dri kernel driver shares a problem with the radeon (which I use
a lot) and the r128 drivers. They have high latency points that reach
10-15 msecs in normal operation[*]. I have a very old patch (not mine, I
don't quite remember where I got it from) that solves this, but it is
not a "legal" patch in the sense that in schedules with a lock held. It
seems to work but it will lock the computer at some point. AFAIK there
is no proper patch for this latency point at this time. Turning off
acceleration should get rid of the latency spikes with the usual
tradeoff of slow video performance.
-- Fernando
[*] with the (bad) patch:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~nando/latencytest/20040323/2.6.4-1.279.ll.ccrma.radeon/
without the patch:
http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~nando/latencytest/20040323/2.6.4-1.279.ll.ccrma/
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2004-07-09 18:26 [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Ingo Molnar
2004-07-09 19:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-07-09 23:50 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-10 0:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-10 1:02 ` Dave Jones
2004-07-12 10:17 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-12 19:36 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 7:43 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-10 6:32 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 7:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 8:10 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-10 8:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-19 10:36 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt 2.6.8-rc2-H4 Ingo Molnar
2004-07-20 1:38 ` Ramón Rey Vicente
2004-07-20 6:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 15:36 ` [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-10 12:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 15:12 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-10 15:14 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 15:18 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 7:07 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-07-11 7:09 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 7:16 ` [announce] [patch] " Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-07-11 9:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 9:29 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-10 16:18 ` [announce] [patch] " Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 6:47 ` [ck] " Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 6:59 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 11:18 ` R. J. Wysocki
2004-07-11 7:09 ` [ck] Re: [announce] [patch] " Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-07-11 14:27 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 14:29 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 14:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 17:29 ` André Goddard Rosa
2004-07-11 17:49 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-07-11 21:20 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-11 21:25 ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2004-07-11 20:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-12 8:23 ` Voluntary Preemption + concurent games Aivils
2004-07-12 9:51 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-12 10:45 ` Lenar Lõhmus
2004-07-12 11:52 ` Aivils
2004-07-12 13:35 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-12 14:15 ` [ck] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Chris Friesen
2004-07-12 14:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 15:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-09 21:13 ` Redeeman
2004-07-10 8:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 8:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 10:55 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-10 11:26 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 12:01 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-10 12:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-10 12:09 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-10 12:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 12:58 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-10 13:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 14:45 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-10 14:57 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-12 10:48 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-12 13:09 ` ismail dönmez
2004-07-12 13:14 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-09 21:36 ` Torrey Hoffman
2004-07-10 8:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-10 1:00 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-10 1:04 ` Dave Jones
2004-07-10 12:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 5:25 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 9:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 9:45 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 9:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 9:58 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 10:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 10:42 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 10:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-07-11 11:13 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-11 18:07 ` Mikulas Patocka
2004-07-12 7:08 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-07-19 10:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-11 23:12 ` Robert Love
2004-07-12 22:40 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-12 13:24 ` John Stoffel
2004-07-12 22:56 ` [linux-audio-dev] " Lee Revell
2004-07-12 23:31 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-12 23:58 ` Paul Davis
2004-07-13 0:06 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 0:21 ` Con Kolivas
2004-07-13 1:01 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] " Lee Revell
2004-07-13 7:49 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 8:12 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 0:01 ` Paul Davis
2004-07-13 0:08 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 16:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 18:42 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 21:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 21:45 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-14 8:51 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-14 9:36 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-14 10:48 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-14 14:52 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-14 16:29 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-14 10:26 ` Benno Senoner
2004-07-13 18:48 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 21:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 21:54 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 22:01 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 22:25 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 22:37 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 22:44 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 22:53 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 23:06 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 23:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-13 23:32 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-14 0:40 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-14 0:45 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-19 11:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 22:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-02 22:20 ` Andrew Morton
2004-09-02 23:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-02 23:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-13 7:58 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 0:17 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 0:46 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 2:52 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 3:59 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 7:57 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-19 10:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-19 11:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-20 5:38 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-20 6:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-20 6:59 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-20 7:11 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <200407202011.20558.musical_snake@gmx.de>
2004-07-20 19:56 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-20 23:49 ` Benno Senoner
2004-07-21 0:32 ` [linux-audio-dev] " Lee Revell
2004-07-21 1:25 ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-21 21:38 ` Another dumb question about " Timothy Miller
2004-07-24 0:25 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-25 20:19 ` Timothy Miller
2004-07-25 20:13 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-21 10:53 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] " Florian Schmidt
2004-07-21 11:18 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-07-21 12:04 ` pci gfx card / jack xruns / pci latencies (was: Re: [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch) Florian Schmidt
2004-07-21 17:49 ` Fernando Pablo Lopez-Lezcano [this message]
2004-07-22 22:25 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Andrew McGregor
2004-07-22 23:16 ` Florian Schmidt
2004-07-21 14:27 ` Benno Senoner
2004-07-20 12:19 ` Jens Axboe
2004-07-20 21:32 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 4:07 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 5:46 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 6:33 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 6:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-24 22:49 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 23:30 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-24 11:27 ` max request size 1024KiB by default? Rudo Thomas
2004-07-24 22:58 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-26 19:29 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2004-07-27 5:15 ` Jens Axboe
2004-07-24 12:41 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Mark Lord
2004-07-24 4:58 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 8:31 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 8:43 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 8:53 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 9:00 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 9:21 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 9:25 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 9:33 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 9:44 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 9:23 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 9:29 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 20:37 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 22:32 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 8:07 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 22:40 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-13 23:47 ` Randy.Dunlap
2004-07-19 10:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 3:27 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-21 7:03 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-21 4:58 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-21 5:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 6:03 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-21 8:22 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 8:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 11:32 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-21 15:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 4:56 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-22 7:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 10:54 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-22 16:23 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 22:11 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-23 5:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 6:45 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-23 6:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 7:11 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-23 7:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 7:28 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-21 18:34 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 18:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 19:56 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 21:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 2:47 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 21:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 2:28 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-22 7:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:53 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-22 19:45 ` Bill Huey
2004-07-28 6:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-28 20:52 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-29 18:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-29 18:36 ` Bill Huey
2004-07-29 19:17 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-29 19:25 ` Bill Huey
2004-07-30 2:23 ` Eric St-Laurent
2004-07-29 20:26 ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-29 20:57 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-29 21:00 ` Pavel Machek
2004-07-29 21:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 22:52 ` Nick Piggin
2004-07-21 18:32 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 20:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 18:30 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 18:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 2:32 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-22 9:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:36 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-22 19:11 ` Robert Love
2004-07-21 21:00 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-21 21:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 22:14 ` Bill Huey
2004-07-21 22:31 ` Bill Huey
2004-07-21 22:37 ` Scott Wood
2004-07-22 10:06 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.8-rc2-H9 Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 16:00 ` scheduling while atomic (Re: voluntary-preempt-2.6.8-rc2-H9) Rudo Thomas
2004-07-22 16:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 17:24 ` voluntary-preempt I0: sluggish feel Rudo Thomas
2004-07-22 17:52 ` Matt Heler
2004-07-22 17:54 ` Rudo Thomas
2004-07-22 18:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:37 ` Rudo Thomas
2004-07-23 10:42 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.8-rc2-I3 Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 10:58 ` Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-07-23 11:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 11:28 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.8-rc2-I4 Ingo Molnar
2004-07-24 0:16 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-23 11:42 ` [patch] voluntary-preempt-2.6.8-rc2-I3 Paolo Ciarrocchi
2004-07-23 12:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-23 15:36 ` Dang, Linh [CAR:2X23:EXCH]
2004-07-23 23:48 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-07-26 11:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-26 12:27 ` Thomas Charbonnel
2004-07-22 18:31 ` voluntary-preempt I0: sluggish feel Robert Love
2004-07-22 18:32 ` Rudo Thomas
2004-07-22 18:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-22 18:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-07-21 6:07 ` [linux-audio-dev] Re: [announce] [patch] Voluntary Kernel Preemption Patch Lee Revell
2004-07-21 10:14 ` Roger Luethi
2004-07-13 0:58 ` Jan Depner
2004-07-13 1:00 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-13 3:31 ` Florin Andrei
2004-07-13 6:31 ` Paul Winkler
2004-07-13 13:26 ` Benno Senoner
2004-07-13 14:50 ` Paul Davis
2004-07-13 19:45 ` Lee Revell
2004-07-13 22:17 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-07-16 4:50 ` Florin Andrei
2004-07-16 12:49 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-07-13 21:53 ` Timothy Miller
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2004-07-13 15:16 [linux-audio-dev] " Shane Shrybman
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