From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>, casey@schaufler-ca.com
Cc: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>,
selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com, joe@nall.com,
James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] Static/fallback external labels for NetLabel
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:16:26 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <109703.22057.qm@web36612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1186673969.6916.542.camel@moss-spartans.epoch.ncsc.mil>
--- Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov> wrote:
> > If y'all are going to look at this, please consider that secid's are
> > SELinux specific and using them in system interfaces is an impediment
> > to the development of other schemes. One important reason that Smack is
> > using netlabel in favor of secmark is that secid interface.
>
> The secid notion is the only reason we have a field in the sk_buff at
> all. The original security blob in the sk_buff was rejected by David
> Miller when the LSM networking hooks were put forward by James; it comes
> back to lifecycle management and overhead. The secmark (just another
> name for a secid) construct in contrast avoids the lifecycle management
> requirement and due to its small fixed size avoids significant bloat.
> There is considerable doubt that we could even get it expanded to being
> a u64, much less turned into a security blob.
This is the answer I expected. I did have to raise the question.
I will stick with netlabel/cipso, and "ambient" labels rather than
the suggested secid based default scheme, at least for the time being.
Thank you.
Casey Schaufler
casey@schaufler-ca.com
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-09 16:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-07 14:14 [RFC 0/5] Static/fallback external labels for NetLabel Paul Moore
2007-08-07 14:14 ` [RFC 1/5] SELinux: add secctx_to_secid() LSM hook Paul Moore
2007-08-07 14:14 ` [RFC 2/5] NetLabel: Add secid token support to the NetLabel secattr struct Paul Moore
2007-08-07 14:14 ` [RFC 3/5] NetLabel: add IP address family information to the netlbl_skbuff_getattr() function Paul Moore
2007-08-07 14:14 ` [RFC 4/5] NetLabel: introduce static network labels for unlabeled connections Paul Moore
2007-08-07 14:14 ` [RFC 5/5] NetLabel: add auditing to the static labeling mechanism Paul Moore
2007-08-09 10:57 ` [RFC 0/5] Static/fallback external labels for NetLabel KaiGai Kohei
2007-08-09 11:48 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 12:42 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 13:29 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 13:54 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 14:48 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 15:49 ` James Morris
2007-08-09 16:01 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 22:35 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 13:59 ` James Morris
2007-08-09 14:50 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 15:13 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 14:41 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 14:57 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 15:07 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 15:32 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-09 15:39 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 16:16 ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2007-08-09 14:09 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 14:24 ` James Morris
2007-08-09 16:42 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 19:20 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-09 19:47 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 20:12 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-09 21:15 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 21:18 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 22:48 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 20:17 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 14:53 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 16:08 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 22:55 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-10 16:49 ` James Morris
2007-08-14 14:47 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-15 4:24 ` James Morris
2007-08-15 22:35 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-16 15:04 ` James Morris
2007-08-24 16:31 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-24 18:34 ` James Morris
2007-08-24 19:02 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-24 19:49 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-24 20:17 ` James Morris
2007-08-24 20:24 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-24 20:47 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-24 20:42 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-24 21:10 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-24 21:37 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-24 20:29 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-28 14:03 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-28 15:16 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 15:48 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-09 19:38 ` Paul Moore
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-08-24 17:37 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-25 21:01 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-24 18:11 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-27 12:44 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-27 14:37 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-27 12:57 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-27 12:59 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-27 13:02 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-27 13:48 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-27 22:09 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-28 14:51 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 14:58 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-28 15:12 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-28 15:51 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 16:18 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-28 18:51 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 19:10 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-28 19:08 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-28 19:48 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-28 22:26 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-29 0:16 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 3:45 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 4:11 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 4:49 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-29 14:04 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 15:50 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-29 16:31 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 12:21 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-29 14:26 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 14:56 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-29 15:08 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 16:55 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 17:23 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-28 19:07 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 16:13 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-28 16:32 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-28 19:08 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 16:30 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-28 17:39 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-28 19:36 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 19:26 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 18:02 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-28 19:47 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-29 15:07 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-29 15:29 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-29 15:45 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-29 16:15 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-29 16:41 ` Paul Moore
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