From: Joshua Brindle <method@manicmethod.com>
To: Joe Nall <joe@nall.com>
Cc: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>,
Darrel Goeddel <sedgoeddel@gmail.com>,
Venkat Yekkirala <vyekkirala@TrustedCS.com>,
selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Darrel Goeddel <DGoeddel@TrustedCS.com>,
Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com, Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] Static/fallback external labels for NetLabel
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:16:33 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46D4BAE1.8010805@manicmethod.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6F2B62D9-0D4D-4F22-8659-317E9EF65743@nall.com>
Joe Nall wrote:
>
> On Aug 28, 2007, at 2:48 PM, Joshua Brindle wrote:
>
>> Joe Nall wrote:
>>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2007, at 1:51 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, August 28 2007 12:18:05 pm Joe Nall wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Will interface aliases (eth0:1) be able to take on different
>>>>> labels from
>>>>> their base interface?
>>>>
>>>> Not sure, it all depends on if an interface alias ends up creating
>>>> a separate
>>>> net_device struct in the kernel, I don't have the answer to this
>>>> off the top
>>>> of my head. What is your preference?
>>>
>>> That interface aliases be independently labeled.
>>
>> I completely agree with Stephen here. Accessing the same physical
>> piece of hardware (on the same wire) through a different 'name'
>> provides basically nothing.
>
> Except convenience. Different IP address, different behavior. I can be
> happy either way.
It is misusing an abstraction, the same way as(as Stephen said) having
different access control on two paths that refer to the same inode.
It should be no surprise that I was just informed by the apparmor devs
that they do plan to allow differing access between interface aliases.
>
>> Most people I've talked to aren't even comfortable using nics that
>> share the same chips on board (eg., dual nics on the motherboard).
>
> We had the same issue with quad port ethernet cards because they had a
> shared PCI interface chip. After looking at the driver, the concern
> was not wholly unfounded ...
Well.. You still aren't buying anything by avoiding this situation, the
drivers are all in the same process space (even if they are different
drivers), the same network stack will be used, etc. You might be able to
sleep at night but what is the security gain?
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Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-27 22:09 [RFC 0/5] Static/fallback external labels for NetLabel Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-28 14:51 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 14:58 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-28 15:12 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-28 15:51 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 16:18 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-28 18:51 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 19:10 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-28 19:08 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-28 19:48 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-28 22:26 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-29 0:16 ` Joshua Brindle [this message]
2007-08-29 3:45 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 4:11 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 4:49 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-29 14:04 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 15:50 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-29 16:31 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 12:21 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-29 14:26 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 14:56 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-29 15:08 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 16:55 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 17:23 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-28 19:07 ` Paul Moore
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-08-29 16:15 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-29 16:41 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-29 15:29 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-29 15:45 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-29 15:07 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-28 18:02 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-28 19:47 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 16:30 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-28 17:39 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-28 19:36 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 19:26 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 16:13 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-28 16:32 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-28 19:08 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-27 13:02 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-27 13:48 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-27 12:59 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-27 12:57 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-27 12:44 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-27 14:37 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-24 18:11 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-24 17:37 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-25 21:01 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-07 14:14 Paul Moore
2007-08-09 10:57 ` KaiGai Kohei
2007-08-09 11:48 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 12:42 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 13:29 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 13:54 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 14:48 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 15:49 ` James Morris
2007-08-09 16:01 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 22:35 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 13:59 ` James Morris
2007-08-09 14:50 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 15:13 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 14:41 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 14:57 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 15:07 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 15:32 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-09 15:39 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 16:16 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-09 14:09 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 14:24 ` James Morris
2007-08-09 16:42 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 19:20 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-09 19:47 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 20:12 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-09 21:15 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 21:18 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 22:48 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 20:17 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 14:53 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 16:08 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 22:55 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-10 16:49 ` James Morris
2007-08-14 14:47 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-15 4:24 ` James Morris
2007-08-15 22:35 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-16 15:04 ` James Morris
2007-08-24 16:31 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-24 18:34 ` James Morris
2007-08-24 19:02 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-24 19:49 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-24 20:17 ` James Morris
2007-08-24 20:24 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-24 20:47 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-24 20:42 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-24 21:10 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-24 21:37 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-24 20:29 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-28 14:03 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-28 15:16 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 15:48 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-09 19:38 ` Paul Moore
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