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From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com>, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov
Cc: kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com, joe@nall.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] Static/fallback external labels for NetLabel
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 08:48:33 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <313245.75436.qm@web36614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070807141415.525577324@hp.com>


--- Paul Moore <paul.moore@hp.com> wrote:

> This patchset adds the static/fallback labeling feature to NetLabel that has
> been requested on the SELinux mailing list more and more recently.  This new
> bit of functionality also matches what can be found on similar
> trusted/labeled
> OSs such as Trusted Solaris, HP-UX CMW, etc.  This patchset it not yet ready
> for "upstreaming" so please do not pull this into any tree bound for the
> mainline kernel; I still need to do more review and testing of the code.
> However, I know there are several of you on this list that have been
> anxiously
> awaiting this patchset so I thought I would make an early release so you
> could
> get a peek and test it out.  I won't be able to work on this patchset much,
> if
> at all, between August 10th and the 20th so don't expect an update from me
> until the end of August.
> 
> The basic idea is that currently there is no method for providing an external
> label to fallback on if a labeled networking mechanism such as NetLabel/CIPSO
> or labeled IPsec is not in use.  This patch adds a mechanism for providing a
> static fallback label, specified per interface/network, which is used when
> a NetLabel recognized labeling protocol (at this point CIPSO) is not in use.

I'm all in favor of the facility. I do however object to the use of
a secid as the mechanism for storing the default label. As I've mentioned
elsewhere, secid's are SELinux specific and add unnecessary overhead to
schemes that don't use them natively. I understand and appreciate that
SELinux is upstream, etc, etc. I understand that a scheme that does not
use secid's is less convenient for SELinux. Please?


Casey Schaufler
casey@schaufler-ca.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-09 15:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-07 14:14 [RFC 0/5] Static/fallback external labels for NetLabel Paul Moore
2007-08-07 14:14 ` [RFC 1/5] SELinux: add secctx_to_secid() LSM hook Paul Moore
2007-08-07 14:14 ` [RFC 2/5] NetLabel: Add secid token support to the NetLabel secattr struct Paul Moore
2007-08-07 14:14 ` [RFC 3/5] NetLabel: add IP address family information to the netlbl_skbuff_getattr() function Paul Moore
2007-08-07 14:14 ` [RFC 4/5] NetLabel: introduce static network labels for unlabeled connections Paul Moore
2007-08-07 14:14 ` [RFC 5/5] NetLabel: add auditing to the static labeling mechanism Paul Moore
2007-08-09 10:57 ` [RFC 0/5] Static/fallback external labels for NetLabel KaiGai Kohei
2007-08-09 11:48   ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 12:42 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 13:29   ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 13:54     ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 14:48       ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 15:49         ` James Morris
2007-08-09 16:01         ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 22:35           ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 13:59     ` James Morris
2007-08-09 14:50       ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 15:13         ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 14:41     ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 14:57       ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 15:07         ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 15:32     ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-09 15:39       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 16:16         ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-09 14:09   ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 14:24     ` James Morris
2007-08-09 16:42       ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 19:20         ` Joe Nall
2007-08-09 19:47           ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 20:12             ` Joe Nall
2007-08-09 21:15               ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-09 21:18               ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 22:48                 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 20:17             ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 14:53     ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 16:08       ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-09 22:55       ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-10 16:49         ` James Morris
2007-08-14 14:47           ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-15  4:24             ` James Morris
2007-08-15 22:35               ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-16 15:04                 ` James Morris
2007-08-24 16:31                   ` Paul Moore
2007-08-24 18:34                     ` James Morris
2007-08-24 19:02                     ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-24 19:49                       ` Paul Moore
2007-08-24 20:17                         ` James Morris
2007-08-24 20:24                           ` Paul Moore
2007-08-24 20:47                             ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-24 20:42                         ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-24 21:10                           ` Paul Moore
2007-08-24 21:37                             ` Casey Schaufler
2007-08-24 20:29                       ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-28 14:03                     ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-28 15:16                       ` Paul Moore
2007-08-09 15:48 ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2007-08-09 19:38   ` Paul Moore
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-08-24 17:37 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-25 21:01 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-24 18:11 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-27 12:44 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-27 14:37 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-27 12:57 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-27 12:59 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-27 13:02 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-27 13:48 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-27 22:09 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-28 14:51 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 14:58 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-28 15:12   ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-28 15:51   ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 16:18     ` Joe Nall
2007-08-28 18:51       ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 19:10         ` Joe Nall
2007-08-28 19:08           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-28 19:48           ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-28 22:26             ` Joe Nall
2007-08-29  0:16               ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29  3:45                 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29  4:11                   ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29  4:49                     ` Joe Nall
2007-08-29 14:04                       ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 15:50                         ` Joe Nall
2007-08-29 16:31                           ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 12:21                     ` Paul Moore
2007-08-29 14:26                       ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 14:56                         ` Paul Moore
2007-08-29 15:08                           ` Joshua Brindle
2007-08-29 16:55                             ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 17:23     ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-28 19:07       ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 16:13 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-28 16:32 ` Joe Nall
2007-08-28 19:08 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 16:30 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-28 17:39 ` Darrel Goeddel
2007-08-28 19:36   ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 19:26 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-28 18:02 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-28 19:47 ` Paul Moore
2007-08-29 15:07 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-29 15:29 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-29 15:45 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-08-29 16:15 Venkat Yekkirala
2007-08-29 16:41 ` Paul Moore

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