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From: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
	Timothy Miller <miller@techsource.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Separate IRQ-stacks from 4K-stacks option
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 13:15:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1098292516.1429.116.camel@krustophenia.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20041020170802.GB24619@dualathlon.random>

On Wed, 2004-10-20 at 13:08, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 12:55:17PM -0400, Lee Revell wrote:
> > This was not my point, I agree that the two have nothing to do with each
> > other.  But if a hardirq handler runs for 3ms then no user code can run
> > for 3ms.  Therefore this is a problem if our goal for desktop response
> > is 1ms.
> 
> I sure agree it's a problem, but not always userspace code needs to run
> for the user not to notice. With ring buffers in the kernel for playback
> all you need is a nested irq for the user not to notice skips.
> 

I was thinking of X, not audio.  This might be a problem for AV
playback.  Maybe that would depend on if DRI was in use.  Anyway I use a
low latency kernel because i need sub-ms response, I was just pointing
out that the current behavior might not be compatible with the 1ms
target.

However with the patch in -mm that enables setting max_sectors_kb, the
1ms goal can be achived by lowering this to 256 or so.  If I were
shipping a desktop distro I would lower this by default.  My tests show
the slowdown is barely measurable if at all.

Lee


  reply	other threads:[~2004-10-21 12:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-09 23:25 [PATCH 1/3] Separate IRQ-stacks from 4K-stacks option Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-09 23:55 ` Brian Gerst
2004-09-09 23:59   ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  6:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  6:45   ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  6:52     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  7:15       ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  7:21         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  7:23           ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  7:35             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  9:12         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10  9:14   ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 10:27     ` Russell King
2004-09-10 14:30     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-10 15:06       ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10 15:07       ` Hugh Dickins
2004-09-10 15:12         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 15:15         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10 15:28           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-10 15:09             ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 15:34             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-12 14:17               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-12 15:03                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-12 15:45                   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-12 16:00                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-20 16:27                     ` Lee Revell
2004-10-21 15:18                       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-12 19:18               ` Lee Revell
2004-09-12 19:25                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-12 19:35                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 19:40                     ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-12 19:44                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 20:33                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-12 21:36                       ` Lee Revell
2004-09-12 22:07                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-12 22:25                           ` Lee Revell
2004-09-13  6:16                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-13  7:27                               ` Lee Revell
2004-09-15 19:43                               ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-15 19:51                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-15 20:00                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15 20:39                                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 17:50                               ` Timothy Miller
2004-09-13  7:32                             ` Jens Axboe
2004-09-13 10:31                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-13 10:34                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-13 12:30                                 ` Jens Axboe
2004-10-20 17:46                             ` Timothy Miller
2004-09-13 10:51                         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-13 20:26                 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-14  5:20                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 15:46               ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 15:35                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-10-20 16:39                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 16:50                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-20 16:55                       ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 17:08                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-20 17:15                           ` Lee Revell [this message]
2004-10-20 17:34                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-20 17:58                     ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 17:55                       ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 18:25                         ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 18:28                           ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 18:51                     ` Alan Cox
2004-10-20 23:19                       ` Lee Revell
2004-09-10 15:16         ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-20 15:43         ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 15:35           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10 15:58       ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2004-09-10 16:19         ` Nathan Bryant
2004-09-10 17:54           ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-10 17:54       ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-10  9:27 ` Alan Cox

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