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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Separate IRQ-stacks from 4K-stacks option
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:26:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41460283.3020909@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1095016687.1306.667.camel@krustophenia.net>

Lee Revell wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 11:34, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> 
>>On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 05:28:52PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 05:15:38PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: 
>>>
>>>>What we should consider regardless is disable the nesting of irqs for
>>>>performance reasons but that's an independent matter
>>>
>>>disabling nesting completely sounds a bit too aggressive, but limiting
>>>the nesting is probably a good idea.
>>
>>disabling is actually not a bad idea; hard irq handlers run for a very short
>>time
> 
> 
> The glaring exception is the IDE io completion, which can run for 2000+
> usec even with a modern chipset and drive.  Here's a 600 usec trace:
> 
> http://krustophenia.net/testresults.php?dataset=2.6.8-rc4-bk3-O7#/var/www/2.6.8-rc4-bk3-O7/ide_irq_latency_trace.txt
> 
> The timer, RTC, and soundcard interrupts (among others) will not like
> being delayed this long.  Ingo mentioned that this was not always done
> in hardirq context; presumaby the I/O completion was done in a softirq
> like SCSI.  What was the motivation for moving such a long code path
> into the hard irq handler?

Certainly if you run ppp the serial port won't like being ignored that 
long, and if you pull down data on a parallel port that really won't 
like it. The soundcard is probably only a problem if you're recording 
input, in spite of some posts here about skipping, the world doesn't end 
if you get a skip, although 2ms shouldn't cause that anyway.

-- 
bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
   CTO TMR Associates, Inc
   Doing interesting things with small computers since 1979

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-13 20:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-09 23:25 [PATCH 1/3] Separate IRQ-stacks from 4K-stacks option Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-09 23:55 ` Brian Gerst
2004-09-09 23:59   ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  6:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  6:45   ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  6:52     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  7:15       ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  7:21         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  7:23           ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  7:35             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  9:12         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10  9:14   ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 10:27     ` Russell King
2004-09-10 14:30     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-10 15:06       ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10 15:07       ` Hugh Dickins
2004-09-10 15:12         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 15:15         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10 15:28           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-10 15:09             ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 15:34             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-12 14:17               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-12 15:03                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-12 15:45                   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-12 16:00                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-20 16:27                     ` Lee Revell
2004-10-21 15:18                       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-12 19:18               ` Lee Revell
2004-09-12 19:25                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-12 19:35                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 19:40                     ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-12 19:44                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 20:33                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-12 21:36                       ` Lee Revell
2004-09-12 22:07                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-12 22:25                           ` Lee Revell
2004-09-13  6:16                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-13  7:27                               ` Lee Revell
2004-09-15 19:43                               ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-15 19:51                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-15 20:00                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15 20:39                                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 17:50                               ` Timothy Miller
2004-09-13  7:32                             ` Jens Axboe
2004-09-13 10:31                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-13 10:34                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-13 12:30                                 ` Jens Axboe
2004-10-20 17:46                             ` Timothy Miller
2004-09-13 10:51                         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-13 20:26                 ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2004-09-14  5:20                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 15:46               ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 15:35                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-10-20 16:39                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 16:50                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-20 16:55                       ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 17:08                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-20 17:15                           ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 17:34                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-20 17:58                     ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 17:55                       ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 18:25                         ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 18:28                           ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 18:51                     ` Alan Cox
2004-10-20 23:19                       ` Lee Revell
2004-09-10 15:16         ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-20 15:43         ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 15:35           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10 15:58       ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2004-09-10 16:19         ` Nathan Bryant
2004-09-10 17:54           ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-10 17:54       ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-10  9:27 ` Alan Cox

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