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From: Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@novell.com>,
	Chris Wedgwood <cw@f00f.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>,
	"Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] Separate IRQ-stacks from 4K-stacks option
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:43:54 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41489B7A.6010407@tmr.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040913061641.GA11276@elte.hu>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Yes, on a server you would probably disable threading for the disk and
>>network IRQs (the VP patch lets you set this via /proc).  This feature
>>effectively gives you IPLs on Linux, albeit only two of them. [...]
> 
> 
> nono, this has no relation to IPLs. IPLs are a pretty crude hack to
> implement exclusion on a very (and too) broad level. IRQ threading is a
> way to serialize hardirq contexts into a process context and to make
> them schedulable and preemptable. It basically 'flattens out' all the
> hardirq nesting (and parallelism) that may happen on a default kernel
> and together with softirq 'flattening' it creates a deterministic
> execution environment.
> 
> it is not intended for servers, due to the overhead of redirection. It's
> for realtime workloads and for latency-sensitive audio desktop
> workloads. For servers and normal desktops the current IRQ and softirq
> model is pretty OK.

Okay, I'll be the one to ask... what overload of the IPL acronym are you 
using here? I asked google and several jargon files, and they all say 
that IPL (initial program load) is IBMspeak for cold boot. Somehow I 
don't think that's what you mean here.

-- 
    -bill davidsen (davidsen@tmr.com)
"The secret to procrastination is to put things off until the
  last possible moment - but no longer"  -me

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-09-15 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-09-09 23:25 [PATCH 1/3] Separate IRQ-stacks from 4K-stacks option Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-09 23:55 ` Brian Gerst
2004-09-09 23:59   ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  6:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  6:45   ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  6:52     ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  7:15       ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  7:21         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  7:23           ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10  7:35             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10  9:12         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10  9:14   ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 10:27     ` Russell King
2004-09-10 14:30     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-10 15:06       ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-10 15:07       ` Hugh Dickins
2004-09-10 15:12         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 15:15         ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10 15:28           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-10 15:09             ` Alan Cox
2004-09-10 15:34             ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-12 14:17               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-12 15:03                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-12 15:45                   ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-12 16:00                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-20 16:27                     ` Lee Revell
2004-10-21 15:18                       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-09-12 19:18               ` Lee Revell
2004-09-12 19:25                 ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-12 19:35                   ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 19:40                     ` Chris Wedgwood
2004-09-12 19:44                       ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-12 20:33                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-12 21:36                       ` Lee Revell
2004-09-12 22:07                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-12 22:25                           ` Lee Revell
2004-09-13  6:16                             ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-13  7:27                               ` Lee Revell
2004-09-15 19:43                               ` Bill Davidsen [this message]
2004-09-15 19:51                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-15 20:00                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2004-09-15 20:39                                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 17:50                               ` Timothy Miller
2004-09-13  7:32                             ` Jens Axboe
2004-09-13 10:31                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-09-13 10:34                                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-13 12:30                                 ` Jens Axboe
2004-10-20 17:46                             ` Timothy Miller
2004-09-13 10:51                         ` Alan Cox
2004-09-13 20:26                 ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-14  5:20                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 15:46               ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 15:35                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-10-20 16:39                   ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 16:50                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-20 16:55                       ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 17:08                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-20 17:15                           ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 17:34                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-10-20 17:58                     ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 17:55                       ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 18:25                         ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 18:28                           ` Lee Revell
2004-10-20 18:51                     ` Alan Cox
2004-10-20 23:19                       ` Lee Revell
2004-09-10 15:16         ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-10-20 15:43         ` Timothy Miller
2004-10-20 15:35           ` Arjan van de Ven
2004-09-10 15:58       ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2004-09-10 16:19         ` Nathan Bryant
2004-09-10 17:54           ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-09-10 17:54       ` Bill Davidsen
2004-09-10  9:27 ` Alan Cox

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