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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Linas Vepstas <linas@austin.ibm.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] I/O-check interface for driver's error handling
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 22:41:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1109803303.5611.108.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050302182205.GI1220@austin.ibm.com>

On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 12:22 -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 08:49:45AM -0800, Linus Torvalds was heard to remark:
> > 
> > The new API is what _allows_ a driver to care. It doesn't handle DMA, but
> > I think that's because nobody knows how to handle it (ie it's probably
> > hw-dependent and all existign implementations would thus be
> > driver-specific anyway).
> 
> ?  
> We could add a call 
> 
> int pci_was_there_an_error_during_dma (struct pci_dev);
> 
> right?  And it could return true/false, right?  I can certainly 
> do that today with ppc64.  I just can't tell you which dma triggered
> the problem.

That's ugly. I prefer asynchronous notification by far.

> > And yes, CLEARLY drivers will have to do all the heavy lifting. 
> 
> well .. maybe.  On ppc64, we have one hack-ish solution for
> hotplug-capable but pci-error-unaware device drivers, and that
> is to hot unplug the driver, clear the pci error condition, and 
> and replug the driver.  Works great for ethernet; haven't tested 
> USB.
> 
> I'm getting greif from the guys over here because my hack-ish code
> is hackish, and isn't arch-generic, and Paul Mackerras doesn't like it, 
> which is why Benh is threatening to re-write it, and etc. ... 
> which is why Seto is involved, and we're having this conversation ... 
> 
> 
> --linas
-- 
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>


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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Linas Vepstas <linas@austin.ibm.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] I/O-check interface for driver's error handling
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2005 09:41:43 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1109803303.5611.108.camel@gaston> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050302182205.GI1220@austin.ibm.com>

On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 12:22 -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 08:49:45AM -0800, Linus Torvalds was heard to remark:
> > 
> > The new API is what _allows_ a driver to care. It doesn't handle DMA, but
> > I think that's because nobody knows how to handle it (ie it's probably
> > hw-dependent and all existign implementations would thus be
> > driver-specific anyway).
> 
> ?  
> We could add a call 
> 
> int pci_was_there_an_error_during_dma (struct pci_dev);
> 
> right?  And it could return true/false, right?  I can certainly 
> do that today with ppc64.  I just can't tell you which dma triggered
> the problem.

That's ugly. I prefer asynchronous notification by far.

> > And yes, CLEARLY drivers will have to do all the heavy lifting. 
> 
> well .. maybe.  On ppc64, we have one hack-ish solution for
> hotplug-capable but pci-error-unaware device drivers, and that
> is to hot unplug the driver, clear the pci error condition, and 
> and replug the driver.  Works great for ethernet; haven't tested 
> USB.
> 
> I'm getting greif from the guys over here because my hack-ish code
> is hackish, and isn't arch-generic, and Paul Mackerras doesn't like it, 
> which is why Benh is threatening to re-write it, and etc. ... 
> which is why Seto is involved, and we're having this conversation ... 
> 
> 
> --linas
-- 
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-03-02 22:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-03-01  8:33 [PATCH/RFC] I/O-check interface for driver's error handling Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-01  8:33 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-01 14:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-03-01 14:42   ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-03-01 19:27   ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-01 19:27     ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-01 19:37     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-01 19:37       ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-02  6:13     ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-02  6:13       ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-02 19:20       ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 19:20         ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-04  2:03         ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-04  2:03           ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-04 16:46           ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-04 16:46             ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-01 16:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-01 16:37   ` Jeff Garzik
2005-03-01 16:49   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-01 16:49     ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-01 16:59     ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-03-01 16:59       ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-03-01 17:10       ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-01 17:10         ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-01 18:33         ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-01 18:33           ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-01 22:27           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-01 22:27             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02 20:02             ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 20:02               ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 22:46               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02 22:46                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02 23:37                 ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 23:37                   ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-01 22:23         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-01 22:23           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02  3:13         ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-02  3:13           ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-04 13:54         ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-04 13:54           ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-04 17:50           ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-04 17:50             ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-04 22:37           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-04 22:37             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-04 22:57             ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-04 22:57               ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-04 23:03               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-04 23:03                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-04 23:18                 ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-04 23:18                   ` Pavel Machek
2005-03-04 23:27                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-04 23:27                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02  2:28       ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-02  2:28         ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-02 17:44         ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 17:44           ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 18:03           ` linux-os
2005-03-02 18:03             ` linux-os
2005-03-02 22:40             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02 22:40               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-04  2:21           ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-04  2:21             ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-01 22:20     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-01 22:20       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02 18:22     ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 18:22       ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 18:41       ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-02 18:41         ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-02 19:46         ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 19:46           ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 22:43         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02 22:43           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02 22:41       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2005-03-02 22:41         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-02 23:30         ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 23:30           ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-02 23:40           ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-02 23:40             ` Jesse Barnes
2005-03-01 19:17   ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-01 19:17     ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-01 22:15   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-01 22:15     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-01 17:19 ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-01 18:08   ` Linus Torvalds
2005-03-01 18:45     ` Andi Kleen
2005-03-01 18:59     ` Linas Vepstas
2005-03-01 22:26     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-01 22:24   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-03-04 12:40 ` Hidetoshi Seto
2005-03-04 12:40   ` Hidetoshi Seto

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